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<blockquote data-quote="petite" data-source="post: 956838" data-attributes="member: 62994"><p>Joburg</p><p>After that we fly to joburg and stayed 2 nights mostly to rest before the long way home. If we find Durban agressive joburg was much more. The contrast between rich and poor, black and whites seemed gigantic. never seen so many electric fences.</p><p>We walked 4 blocks to a restaurant first, and then like 7 to a mall, we wanted to buy some presents to our nephews. We again where stared at (my son was whearing a croatia footbal shirt) mistake! While waiting for the Uber some guy aproched, said he was a police man and started yelling that we needed a permision, that we needed to buy one at the atm nearby, even though i knew something was wrong we followed the guy to the service station. I asked him to show me his badge and then some other guy show up he did have some kind of ID hanging from his neck, he pretend to show us how to get the permition ( bullshit of course) hopefully my wife, who has wathcing the scene more than participating, was cool engough to think. The guy only talked to me, she used an argentinian card instead of the credit card that we where in fact using, so the guy took the card inserted it in the atm and asked my wife to mark the pin and then the phone nbr. in a second they where gone with the card.</p><p>After that the people in the station approched and told us what we allready knew, cancel the card! Hopefully we had a usable phone and we did cancel it within minutes, So actually nothing happend, but it really ruin my day. I felt so stupid (they try a similar scam to me here in Arg some years ago but i didnt fell for it) my wife was telling me to just walk away but it didnt feel safe either so i thought that getting to the service station where the atm was, was the best option. The fact that nobody said anithing until they got away with the card, proved that they where scared too. i could see it in their faces. There where at least 10 people in there.</p><p>The uber driver was very kind and helped along. In fact we had a few situations where strangers where extremely kind, one woman walked with us for 3 blocks in Durban to show us an adress. When we got to Joburg they could not find our reservation at the hotel, and again the uber driver stayed there until everyting was ok.</p><p>The next day we took the city tour bus and went to the apartheid museum. That was a chilling experience, at times i had to make an effort to hold my tears, in a way we can ralate to it cos we had policical violence aswell during the 70s, and it took me back to some dark times. Also my father toured SA as a couch with a rugby team in those years so i could not avoid a sense of shame and dispair (dont blame him at all it was such a different time, but recently we talked about it and he said he did wrong) Many of the famous touring South America XV who got that win vs the bocks also regret it) when we got back to the hotel i find out that chester had died, and minutes ago i was telling my kid all about him. such a sad moment.</p><p>Again we where approched by some other guy while waiting for the city bus there was no one around. Again i knew something was wrong so these time i cut him off.</p><p>and while i was sayng to my wife just go away with the kid a security man approched, by the time i lookd again the man had fled.</p><p>Far from pointing my finger or beeing judgemental , cos i know that i had only a glance into a complex country and reality and my views are far away from the truth. i consider it very interesting experience i´m really glad i visited and i would recomed everyone to go. i been throu **** many times. robbed in italy, in BS AS several times, stabbed, also in BS AS and i had to run for my life more than once so im not easyly scared.</p><p>it is a land of exuberance where we find the best and the worse and we got to taste it all.</p><p>think it was great material for my kid to learn cos maybe it was his first glance to real life with all it beauty and mysteries.</p><p>all the best to you and your great country.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="petite, post: 956838, member: 62994"] Joburg After that we fly to joburg and stayed 2 nights mostly to rest before the long way home. If we find Durban agressive joburg was much more. The contrast between rich and poor, black and whites seemed gigantic. never seen so many electric fences. We walked 4 blocks to a restaurant first, and then like 7 to a mall, we wanted to buy some presents to our nephews. We again where stared at (my son was whearing a croatia footbal shirt) mistake! While waiting for the Uber some guy aproched, said he was a police man and started yelling that we needed a permision, that we needed to buy one at the atm nearby, even though i knew something was wrong we followed the guy to the service station. I asked him to show me his badge and then some other guy show up he did have some kind of ID hanging from his neck, he pretend to show us how to get the permition ( bullshit of course) hopefully my wife, who has wathcing the scene more than participating, was cool engough to think. The guy only talked to me, she used an argentinian card instead of the credit card that we where in fact using, so the guy took the card inserted it in the atm and asked my wife to mark the pin and then the phone nbr. in a second they where gone with the card. After that the people in the station approched and told us what we allready knew, cancel the card! Hopefully we had a usable phone and we did cancel it within minutes, So actually nothing happend, but it really ruin my day. I felt so stupid (they try a similar scam to me here in Arg some years ago but i didnt fell for it) my wife was telling me to just walk away but it didnt feel safe either so i thought that getting to the service station where the atm was, was the best option. The fact that nobody said anithing until they got away with the card, proved that they where scared too. i could see it in their faces. There where at least 10 people in there. The uber driver was very kind and helped along. In fact we had a few situations where strangers where extremely kind, one woman walked with us for 3 blocks in Durban to show us an adress. When we got to Joburg they could not find our reservation at the hotel, and again the uber driver stayed there until everyting was ok. The next day we took the city tour bus and went to the apartheid museum. That was a chilling experience, at times i had to make an effort to hold my tears, in a way we can ralate to it cos we had policical violence aswell during the 70s, and it took me back to some dark times. Also my father toured SA as a couch with a rugby team in those years so i could not avoid a sense of shame and dispair (dont blame him at all it was such a different time, but recently we talked about it and he said he did wrong) Many of the famous touring South America XV who got that win vs the bocks also regret it) when we got back to the hotel i find out that chester had died, and minutes ago i was telling my kid all about him. such a sad moment. Again we where approched by some other guy while waiting for the city bus there was no one around. Again i knew something was wrong so these time i cut him off. and while i was sayng to my wife just go away with the kid a security man approched, by the time i lookd again the man had fled. Far from pointing my finger or beeing judgemental , cos i know that i had only a glance into a complex country and reality and my views are far away from the truth. i consider it very interesting experience i´m really glad i visited and i would recomed everyone to go. i been throu **** many times. robbed in italy, in BS AS several times, stabbed, also in BS AS and i had to run for my life more than once so im not easyly scared. it is a land of exuberance where we find the best and the worse and we got to taste it all. think it was great material for my kid to learn cos maybe it was his first glance to real life with all it beauty and mysteries. all the best to you and your great country. [/QUOTE]
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