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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BLR @ Sep 12 2008, 05:44 PM)
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If you like elections you'd love the WA state election, it's been a week since the voting and no major party can rule outright, both parties are sucking up to the National party to form a coalition to take them over the edge. The National party got 4% of the total vote in the state, absolutely nuts that they will select the next government, so much for democracy.[/b]
That IS democracy (Not to mention they are the only chance for country bumpkins there to get any say and maybe just a little bit back from the minerals boom) what you are proposing is the tyranny of the majority and we have that it fails miserably we have two organisations that are designed to win elections (Labor "party" and Liberal "party") that believe in nothing but power and all politics is safe and set-up for the short-term. (look where such politics has got the river murray?)
No BLR we need small parties and other voices than the usual crap pumped out and packaged for the public and media by the Labor and Liberal Parties.Without them in the federal senate we would of being in alot worse situation and lack of work choices would of being 10x worse. (It was very diluted once Fuhrer Howard got control of the senate and i sincerely doubt if we hadnt given him the boot that would of being the last bit of creating master/servant relationship at work and demonising the unions)
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Can anyone explain why the biggest Xenophobe probably in NZ and your answer to Pauline Hanson became Foreign Minister wouldn't that entail dealing with Asians and such.
He would hate that part of the job.
As for the election i hope that you dont elect a Johnny Howard clone from the National Party.The last opposition leader made my skin crawl.
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Just replying about the Winston Peters part. It's trendy to cite factually incorrect things about anyone's immigration policies.
Winston has in recent days shown himself to be a fraudulent fool, but let's keep our other facts straight before inferring he's a racist. Winston is more than happy to work with any culture and to have any culture live in New Zealand.
The source of all the "Winston Peter's is a racist" talk comes from this part of his beliefs. He believes that if you allow immigration to be largely introduced from any one specific culture, eventually that culture will become the dominant culture in the indigenous land. His solution to this would've been to regulate immigration so as to keep an equal variety of incoming cultures and at least preserving a balance of sorts.
Try going into a China or Iran over 20 years with the a couple of million Americans who want to set up some communities. One, they'd never let them do it. Two, they'd never be allowed to settle peacefully.
That would be the case even though the local culture would never be overwhelmed due to a fairly large population in Iran and a massive one in China. New Zealand has just over 4 million. Already a huge number of them are recently immigrated asian.
That in itself is not a problem, they could all be english, indian, french or anything else and Winston would've felt the same. In this case it just happens to be asian. Add to this, that some of these people have not made any effort to assimilate into the local culture. Those who have are to be commended, but the larger issue Winston was getting at was preserving a cultural balance.
With such a small population, it is gradually becoming an issue. So, let's think a bit before calling him a racist or anything like it. He's more of a culturalist.
Besides all that, of late he's definitely been an idiot.
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Ideas that a certain ethnic/religious group are going to overrun a country are rubbish and are used by people like him and Pauline Hanson (She said that Australia was going to be flooded with Asians) and politicians long before Mr.Peters came around to appeal to an audience and to win votes.To say its new and/or specific to NZ is rubbish the theory is old as the hills and based on Racism and Prejudice.
Its only an issue if you want it to be its not a real issue real issues are Health,Education etc.I think the real issue is people's prejudice and the fact that some dont integrate.
So yeah racist might be a stretch but i stand by the idea that he is a xenophobe.
