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<blockquote data-quote="psychic duck" data-source="post: 598127" data-attributes="member: 48703"><p>Actually Glasgow play more emphasis on the regular league and have a better team more often, it was the same when Edinburgh finished 2nd, they treat the league with more importance than other teams who will gladly sacrifice games for H Cup success and lose players more often. The WRU and FIR takes away even fringe players like Tavis Knoyle or Aaron Jarvis for squad training, the IRFU has the player welfare thing. The SRU always allows them to have fringe members available. Also I never said specifically "internationals being held back" has allowed them to do that. It actually read that if teams had their full options available all season they wouldn't be flying quite so high. In a Heineken Cup pool of Leinster, Ulster, Ospreys and Glasgow, they certainly wouldn't top it.</p><p></p><p>And smartcooky's point was that tables would end up looking much the same if the teams didn't rest players which is clearly not true. The chasm between the providers and non international providers would obviously grow and the elite would lead the league in a much more dominant fashion and there would be no flukes like there can be now. The league would change in dynamic completely.</p><p></p><p>Also as you yourself said, it's an obvious point that Leinster wouldn't be able to get away so easily if the opposition (say Munster for example) were full strength and gunning for a playoff place. Which is exactly why the league needs to have full teams more often and more riding on the matches to make it a better product.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="psychic duck, post: 598127, member: 48703"] Actually Glasgow play more emphasis on the regular league and have a better team more often, it was the same when Edinburgh finished 2nd, they treat the league with more importance than other teams who will gladly sacrifice games for H Cup success and lose players more often. The WRU and FIR takes away even fringe players like Tavis Knoyle or Aaron Jarvis for squad training, the IRFU has the player welfare thing. The SRU always allows them to have fringe members available. Also I never said specifically "internationals being held back" has allowed them to do that. It actually read that if teams had their full options available all season they wouldn't be flying quite so high. In a Heineken Cup pool of Leinster, Ulster, Ospreys and Glasgow, they certainly wouldn't top it. And smartcooky's point was that tables would end up looking much the same if the teams didn't rest players which is clearly not true. The chasm between the providers and non international providers would obviously grow and the elite would lead the league in a much more dominant fashion and there would be no flukes like there can be now. The league would change in dynamic completely. Also as you yourself said, it's an obvious point that Leinster wouldn't be able to get away so easily if the opposition (say Munster for example) were full strength and gunning for a playoff place. Which is exactly why the league needs to have full teams more often and more riding on the matches to make it a better product. [/QUOTE]
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