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<blockquote data-quote="coolbawn" data-source="post: 592042" data-attributes="member: 70385"><p>Not convinced that it would look or be less competitive. I reckon that the young shavers given their chance by strong teams in non-HEC qualifying games would play full-on whereas more mature overseas players who are forced to play week-in-week-out tend to be less intense in some matches. You might be right but it's not what I notice watching lots of Rabo matches.</p><p></p><p>By the way, I reckon every Rabo match is held in very high regard by every Rabo coach. It's just that they juggle their teams to balance the desire to rest players, give nippers a sniff and win with a bonus point or just nick a losing bonus point from a match they know they probably can't win.</p><p></p><p>Not convinced that TV audiences would fall at all. I reckon many supporters are more interested in watching - say - local England U20 players given a few chances a season than non-trophy overseas players playing in every match. But again, you might be right.</p><p></p><p>I do agree that it's not the end of the world to play in the Amlin if that's more suitable and IF the Amlin is redesigned. So (to argue against my previous post) maybe only 1 Scottish team should get into the HEC by right. Currently therefore, Edinburgh would go into the Amlin and that might be fine as long as the Amlin didn't include the clubs who are currently hammered 80-0 in the Amlin. We need a third competition for those clubs to make every Amlin match competitive, interesting and commercially viable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="coolbawn, post: 592042, member: 70385"] Not convinced that it would look or be less competitive. I reckon that the young shavers given their chance by strong teams in non-HEC qualifying games would play full-on whereas more mature overseas players who are forced to play week-in-week-out tend to be less intense in some matches. You might be right but it's not what I notice watching lots of Rabo matches. By the way, I reckon every Rabo match is held in very high regard by every Rabo coach. It's just that they juggle their teams to balance the desire to rest players, give nippers a sniff and win with a bonus point or just nick a losing bonus point from a match they know they probably can't win. Not convinced that TV audiences would fall at all. I reckon many supporters are more interested in watching - say - local England U20 players given a few chances a season than non-trophy overseas players playing in every match. But again, you might be right. I do agree that it's not the end of the world to play in the Amlin if that's more suitable and IF the Amlin is redesigned. So (to argue against my previous post) maybe only 1 Scottish team should get into the HEC by right. Currently therefore, Edinburgh would go into the Amlin and that might be fine as long as the Amlin didn't include the clubs who are currently hammered 80-0 in the Amlin. We need a third competition for those clubs to make every Amlin match competitive, interesting and commercially viable. [/QUOTE]
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