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<blockquote data-quote="smartcooky" data-source="post: 645187" data-attributes="member: 20605">That is a grossly unfair remark. The overall tackle/ruck turnover rate in Super Rugby is as high as it is in any other elite competititon.What SH referees will generally not allow fetchers/jacklers to do is to support heir bodyweight while going for the ball. This is because the LAWS say that players have to be on their feet, and the directives to referees from the iRB and their respective Unions is that &quot;a player is off his feet when he is using his arms or another player to support his weight.&quot;The following techniques are illegal and if seen, will get you penalised by most SH referees;1. placing the hands on the ground beyond the ball and &quot;sweeping&quot; backward to grab the ball2. placing forearms and/or elbows on the ground beyond the ball3. leaning the knees/chins/lower legs on a team-mate or opponent.&nbsp; In all of these cases, the jackler is deemed to be &quot;off his feet&quot;. In general terms, if the jackler&#039;s backside is in front of his heels, then he cannot be supporting his own bodyweight on his feet unless his feet are very wide apart. If you don&#039;t believe me, try this at home.... stand with your back to a wall, and with a ball on the ground about 18&quot; in front of you. Place your feet shoulder-width apart, with your heels and backside hard against the wall and try to pick up the ball without toppling forward. You wont be able to, but now widen your stance and try again. Keep widening and keep trying. See how far apart your feet have to be before you can pick up the ball.You&#039;ll be talking about when he kept penalising Brian O&#039;Driscoll. Well quite simply, O&#039;Driscoll often used technique No. 2 above, its illegal. O&#039;Driscoll also had a habit of taking the ball carrier to ground and ending up standing already in the gate, which is fine and a great skill if you are good enough to do it, but then he would fail to release the tackled player before gong for the ball, which is also illegal.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="smartcooky, post: 645187, member: 20605"] That is a grossly unfair remark. The overall tackle/ruck turnover rate in Super Rugby is as high as it is in any other elite competititon. What SH referees will generally not allow fetchers/jacklers to do is to support heir bodyweight while going for the ball. This is because the LAWS say that players have to be on their feet, and the directives to referees from the iRB and their respective Unions is that [I]"a player is off his feet when he is using his arms or another player to support his weight." [/I] The following techniques are illegal and if seen, will get you penalised by most SH referees; 1. placing the hands on the ground beyond the ball and "sweeping" backward to grab the ball 2. placing forearms and/or elbows on the ground beyond the ball 3. leaning the knees/chins/lower legs on a team-mate or opponent. In all of these cases, the jackler is deemed to be "off his feet". In general terms, if the jackler's backside is in front of his heels, then he cannot be supporting his own bodyweight on his feet unless his feet are very wide apart. If you don't believe me, try this at home.... stand with your back to a wall, and with a ball on the ground about 18" in front of you. Place your feet shoulder-width apart, with your heels and backside hard against the wall and try to pick up the ball without toppling forward. You wont be able to, but now widen your stance and try again. Keep widening and keep trying. See how far apart your feet have to be before you can pick up the ball. You'll be talking about when he kept penalising Brian O'Driscoll. Well quite simply, O'Driscoll often used technique No. 2 above, its illegal. O'Driscoll also had a habit of taking the ball carrier to ground and ending up standing already in the gate, which is fine and a great skill if you are good enough to do it, but then he would fail to release the tackled player before gong for the ball, which is also illegal. [/QUOTE]

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