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<blockquote data-quote="Larksea" data-source="post: 412259" data-attributes="member: 43875">Because I dont like him, is that ok? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />Elis has had a great season no doubt, his best so far I think. But honestly there are aspects of his game I dont like and the fact he plays behind a star studded forward pack and inside the best 10 in history is a factor and it&#039;s hard to put his performances in perspective because of that. Looking at the stats he hasn&#039;t had to make many tackles compared to other 9&#039;s with similar gametime and I dont rate his defense overall. And at times I still think his passing has been very average. That and yes the fact that Elis has spent a number of games on the sideline when Cowan &amp; Leonard have been involved pretty much every game.I still think people do underrate Leonard, he is in league with the best and looking at his stats he&#039;s making more tackles and also linebreaks than most halfbacks. Good example would be compared to Mathewson who some consider NZ&#039;s best running 9. Leonard has made more likebreaks and offloads in less gametime than Mathewson and he&#039;s also had to make a lot more tackles and his kicking game is far superior.I know stats dont tell the whole story but they do give a good overall picture.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Larksea, post: 412259, member: 43875"] Because I dont like him, is that ok? :p Elis has had a great season no doubt, his best so far I think. But honestly there are aspects of his game I dont like and the fact he plays behind a star studded forward pack and inside the best 10 in history is a factor and it's hard to put his performances in perspective because of that. Looking at the stats he hasn't had to make many tackles compared to other 9's with similar gametime and I dont rate his defense overall. And at times I still think his passing has been very average. That and yes the fact that Elis has spent a number of games on the sideline when Cowan & Leonard have been involved pretty much every game. I still think people do underrate Leonard, he is in league with the best and looking at his stats he's making more tackles and also linebreaks than most halfbacks. Good example would be compared to Mathewson who some consider NZ's best running 9. Leonard has made more likebreaks and offloads in less gametime than Mathewson and he's also had to make a lot more tackles and his kicking game is far superior. I know stats dont tell the whole story but they do give a good overall picture. [/QUOTE]

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