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Exeter chiefs 2017/18 season thread. Chance to top the premiership.
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<blockquote data-quote="brokenoses" data-source="post: 868048" data-attributes="member: 72824"><p>The Henry Slade discussion has been going on for a long time in the Chiefs forums. For what it's worth, this is my view on the matter (posted by me on another forum).</p><p></p><p>"My opinion is that Slade is and always has been a fly half. Because of Steensons' form and Slades' obvious abilities, Slade has been playing in a 2nd playmaker role alongside him (rather than as a later game 10 replacement). Steensons' form will drop at some point soon and when that happens we will suffer as we will have no replacement of a similar/better ability. Simmons looks to have a very bright future but the gap in age and ability between Steenson and himself is too great to be a smooth transition. Slade is perfectly placed to ensure the transition away from Steenson at 10 is smooth. He has the potential to reach a very high level at 10 but <u>he will not reach it unless he gets experience now playing 10 regularly at a high level</u>. </p><p></p><p>Essentially my point is that Slade playing at 10 now could affect our results in the short term but the balance will return and we will have an incredibly talented fly half, and Simmons as a high class back-up, for the years moving forward. Steenson will continue his fine form and mentor both Slade and Simmons and help them reach their potential. The alternative is buying an expensive fly half to bridge the gap between Steeno and Simmons which I feel is a waste of time and money that we could use in other positions."</p><p></p><p>Slade started the season at 10 against Sarries and Wasps, and Chiefs got hammered. The next week he was moved back to centre. As a confidence player, I don't think this did him any favours. Later on in the season he played at 10 for a fair chunk and I think Chiefs played some of their best rugby with him pulling the strings. Chiefs need a top quality 10 to take over after Steenson and Slade is in the perfect position to fill this role. It would be a huge waste, and dead against the Chiefs ethos, if this homegrown talent moved away and Chiefs bought in a ready made fly half. I think they need to look at the bigger picture and continue putting the time in developing Slade as a 10.</p><p></p><p>Rest of the squad -</p><p></p><p>Front row - Hepburn, LCD and Williams brings real power and dynamism with bulk and stability coming from Williams. If LCD brings back his mullet they also have triple hair power. Moon very underrated and Malton played very well last season. Any of the remaining 3 of our 4 international TH's we have (mental) should do a job at 18.</p><p></p><p>Second row - Parling leaves a big pair of boots to fill. Exeter tend to play an enforcer at 4 and lineout general at 5. Lees and Hill tick those boxes. Dennis had a brilliant later season and we may see Armand at lock this year (originally signed as a lock). A few new faces to look at.</p><p></p><p>Back row - Lots of good options. I expect the balance will have a blend of carrier (Ewers, Waldrom), fetcher (Salvi, Simmons, Kvesic) and jumper (Armand, Dennis, Skinner). Gross over simplification I know. Selection depends on fitness (Ewers) and other positions.</p><p></p><p>Scrum half - I expect White, Townsend and Chudley to battle it out with Maunder benefiting from another season in the Championship. By mid season I think White will mostly be 9 with Townsend 21.</p><p></p><p>Fly half - Slade/Steeno 10/22. Whoever starts, have the other on the bench and not in centres. Slade needs to settle here.</p><p></p><p>Centres - Devoto seems the perfect 12, Hill and Campagnaro have pace and power outside him. Expect more from Max Bodily at 13.</p><p></p><p>Back 3 - It wouldn't surprise me to see more of Nowell at 15 leaving wings to Woodburn and Short. I thought Turner was unlucky last season not to keep the 15 shirt.</p><p></p><p>My 23 v Gloucester -</p><p></p><p>1. Hepburn</p><p>2. Cowan-Dickie</p><p>3. Williams</p><p>4. Lees</p><p>5. Hill</p><p>6. Ewers</p><p>7. Kvesic</p><p>8. Armand</p><p>9. Townsend</p><p>10. Steenson</p><p>11. Woodburn</p><p>12. Devoto</p><p>13. Hill</p><p>14. Nowell</p><p>15. Turner</p><p></p><p>16. Malton</p><p>17. Moon</p><p>18. Francis</p><p>19. Dennis</p><p>20. Simmons</p><p>21. White</p><p>22. Slade</p><p>23. Campagnaro</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="brokenoses, post: 868048, member: 72824"] The Henry Slade discussion has been going on for a long time in the Chiefs forums. For what it's worth, this is my view on the matter (posted by me on another forum). "My opinion is that Slade is and always has been a fly half. Because of Steensons' form and Slades' obvious abilities, Slade has been playing in a 2nd playmaker role alongside him (rather than as a later game 10 replacement). Steensons' form will drop at some point soon and when that happens we will suffer as we will have no replacement of a similar/better ability. Simmons looks to have a very bright future but the gap in age and ability between Steenson and himself is too great to be a smooth transition. Slade is perfectly placed to ensure the transition away from Steenson at 10 is smooth. He has the potential to reach a very high level at 10 but [U]he will not reach it unless he gets experience now playing 10 regularly at a high level[/U]. Essentially my point is that Slade playing at 10 now could affect our results in the short term but the balance will return and we will have an incredibly talented fly half, and Simmons as a high class back-up, for the years moving forward. Steenson will continue his fine form and mentor both Slade and Simmons and help them reach their potential. The alternative is buying an expensive fly half to bridge the gap between Steeno and Simmons which I feel is a waste of time and money that we could use in other positions." Slade started the season at 10 against Sarries and Wasps, and Chiefs got hammered. The next week he was moved back to centre. As a confidence player, I don't think this did him any favours. Later on in the season he played at 10 for a fair chunk and I think Chiefs played some of their best rugby with him pulling the strings. Chiefs need a top quality 10 to take over after Steenson and Slade is in the perfect position to fill this role. It would be a huge waste, and dead against the Chiefs ethos, if this homegrown talent moved away and Chiefs bought in a ready made fly half. I think they need to look at the bigger picture and continue putting the time in developing Slade as a 10. Rest of the squad - Front row - Hepburn, LCD and Williams brings real power and dynamism with bulk and stability coming from Williams. If LCD brings back his mullet they also have triple hair power. Moon very underrated and Malton played very well last season. Any of the remaining 3 of our 4 international TH's we have (mental) should do a job at 18. Second row - Parling leaves a big pair of boots to fill. Exeter tend to play an enforcer at 4 and lineout general at 5. Lees and Hill tick those boxes. Dennis had a brilliant later season and we may see Armand at lock this year (originally signed as a lock). A few new faces to look at. Back row - Lots of good options. I expect the balance will have a blend of carrier (Ewers, Waldrom), fetcher (Salvi, Simmons, Kvesic) and jumper (Armand, Dennis, Skinner). Gross over simplification I know. Selection depends on fitness (Ewers) and other positions. Scrum half - I expect White, Townsend and Chudley to battle it out with Maunder benefiting from another season in the Championship. By mid season I think White will mostly be 9 with Townsend 21. Fly half - Slade/Steeno 10/22. Whoever starts, have the other on the bench and not in centres. Slade needs to settle here. Centres - Devoto seems the perfect 12, Hill and Campagnaro have pace and power outside him. Expect more from Max Bodily at 13. Back 3 - It wouldn't surprise me to see more of Nowell at 15 leaving wings to Woodburn and Short. I thought Turner was unlucky last season not to keep the 15 shirt. My 23 v Gloucester - 1. Hepburn 2. Cowan-Dickie 3. Williams 4. Lees 5. Hill 6. Ewers 7. Kvesic 8. Armand 9. Townsend 10. Steenson 11. Woodburn 12. Devoto 13. Hill 14. Nowell 15. Turner 16. Malton 17. Moon 18. Francis 19. Dennis 20. Simmons 21. White 22. Slade 23. Campagnaro [/QUOTE]
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