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<blockquote data-quote="Leonormous Boozer" data-source="post: 878341" data-attributes="member: 45598"><p>It is literally the same thing, the RFU might not be doing it themselves but they're happy to benefit from it when the clubs on their doorstep do and then throw shade at other unions for doing it. If they want compensated for this, or for this to stop, then they should compensate the Rabbitohs and Leinster for Te'o, the Blues for Hughes etc... Instead they reap the benefits hiding under the excuse of "well we don't control our clubs and are just playing by the rules", the SRU are playing by the rules here and not doing anything that the RFU haven't and won't continue to benefit from by English clubs doing it and it's wrong for some reason. I'd imagine the only thing stopping the RFU from doing it is the lack of opportunity too, if there were enough English moving to Scotland, Wales or Ireland they'd be at it but they already have a more kids to scout in England than those three countries combined. BREXIT might see a few Irish kids playing for England because their parents moved to Dublin along with their big firm (and priced a slightly older Alpha Bro out of the ******* market forcing him to move to some hole in Kildare with his sexy wife to be, ********)</p><p></p><p>[USER=73648]@themole25[/USER] I don't think the RFU are doing anything immoral, I don't think anyone is doing anything immoral, it's the accusations that they are that give rise to hypocrisy in my opinion. Do you have any idea on how to implement clubs being reimbursed by the international sides? Would you not consider the players becoming better as result of exposure to international rugby (exclude France for the most part) enough or is it solely in the case of when a player leaves the club and plays international rugby? </p><p></p><p>Anyway, I'm pretty sure I've said all I can and had done some time ago. I wasn't as clear and concise as I'd have liked to have been for a few reasons, passion for the subject and stress (unrelated) being up there. Quick recap: losing some immigrants from countries using their diaspora is part of the cycle of benefitting from a large immigrant population and the RFU benefitting from their clubs signing an English qualified or "project", for lack of a better word, player is no different from the unions benefitting from doing it, it's just an extra insignificant step. The unions being able to target it is just where that system is better. Poaching isn't a real thing in professional sports when ultimately it's the decision of the player to consider what's best for him. Losing a guy to a better offer is business, English clubs have more money, Union clubs have, at times, the heightened opportunity of international rugby to use as bargaining chips, swings and roundabouts. The unions aren't evil Pied Piper figures for what they're doing, they're taking advantage of rules on nationality that are far from unfair... And Eoin O'Farrell is only good because of his genetics.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Leonormous Boozer, post: 878341, member: 45598"] It is literally the same thing, the RFU might not be doing it themselves but they're happy to benefit from it when the clubs on their doorstep do and then throw shade at other unions for doing it. If they want compensated for this, or for this to stop, then they should compensate the Rabbitohs and Leinster for Te'o, the Blues for Hughes etc... Instead they reap the benefits hiding under the excuse of "well we don't control our clubs and are just playing by the rules", the SRU are playing by the rules here and not doing anything that the RFU haven't and won't continue to benefit from by English clubs doing it and it's wrong for some reason. I'd imagine the only thing stopping the RFU from doing it is the lack of opportunity too, if there were enough English moving to Scotland, Wales or Ireland they'd be at it but they already have a more kids to scout in England than those three countries combined. BREXIT might see a few Irish kids playing for England because their parents moved to Dublin along with their big firm (and priced a slightly older Alpha Bro out of the ******* market forcing him to move to some hole in Kildare with his sexy wife to be, ********) [USER=73648]@themole25[/USER] I don't think the RFU are doing anything immoral, I don't think anyone is doing anything immoral, it's the accusations that they are that give rise to hypocrisy in my opinion. Do you have any idea on how to implement clubs being reimbursed by the international sides? Would you not consider the players becoming better as result of exposure to international rugby (exclude France for the most part) enough or is it solely in the case of when a player leaves the club and plays international rugby? Anyway, I'm pretty sure I've said all I can and had done some time ago. I wasn't as clear and concise as I'd have liked to have been for a few reasons, passion for the subject and stress (unrelated) being up there. Quick recap: losing some immigrants from countries using their diaspora is part of the cycle of benefitting from a large immigrant population and the RFU benefitting from their clubs signing an English qualified or "project", for lack of a better word, player is no different from the unions benefitting from doing it, it's just an extra insignificant step. The unions being able to target it is just where that system is better. Poaching isn't a real thing in professional sports when ultimately it's the decision of the player to consider what's best for him. Losing a guy to a better offer is business, English clubs have more money, Union clubs have, at times, the heightened opportunity of international rugby to use as bargaining chips, swings and roundabouts. The unions aren't evil Pied Piper figures for what they're doing, they're taking advantage of rules on nationality that are far from unfair... And Eoin O'Farrell is only good because of his genetics. [/QUOTE]
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