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<blockquote data-quote="LIONSxv" data-source="post: 1147792" data-attributes="member: 82756">England are not playing well that much is obvious. I think many realistic fans, punters support pragmatic effective rugby. The very best teams are hugely pragmatic in that they have a great kick chase, defence and set pieceI would argue that this current England side are not pragmatic, in that to be pragmatic you also need to be effective. 75% of England current pass kick tactics result in the ball been turned over, penalised or players don&#039;t have a clue where to run or pass. This England side is ideologically driven by a game plan that stops players playing because stats tell Borthwick that kicks win matches, this much is obvious. This stat is only true as the teams doing the kicking are usually on the front foot and have better kickers/chasers.It is of no surprise that when England played through the phases they scored two nice tries. SB like Eddie is trying play a kick chase game moulded from South Africa 2019 iteration, but without a dominant pack and brilliant chasers . It&#039;s a stupid game plan and will come unstuck against the first team that plays well against them</blockquote>

[QUOTE="LIONSxv, post: 1147792, member: 82756"] England are not playing well that much is obvious. I think many realistic fans, punters support pragmatic effective rugby. The very best teams are hugely pragmatic in that they have a great kick chase, defence and set piece I would argue that this current England side are not pragmatic, in that to be pragmatic you also need to be effective. 75% of England current pass kick tactics result in the ball been turned over, penalised or players don't have a clue where to run or pass. This England side is ideologically driven by a game plan that stops players playing because stats tell Borthwick that kicks win matches, this much is obvious. This stat is only true as the teams doing the kicking are usually on the front foot and have better kickers/chasers. It is of no surprise that when England played through the phases they scored two nice tries. SB like Eddie is trying play a kick chase game moulded from South Africa 2019 iteration, but without a dominant pack and brilliant chasers . It's a stupid game plan and will come unstuck against the first team that plays well against them [/QUOTE]

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