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2024 Guinness Six Nations
England vs Italy - 10/03/2013
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<blockquote data-quote="mstar" data-source="post: 556151" data-attributes="member: 59646"><p>I still scratch my head on the game.</p><p>ok lets start with the players worthy discussion.</p><p></p><p><u>Ashton </u>- ran a lot of good lines but due to the pressure and defense of Italy restricted him somewhat. Really i cannot fault him in this game its hard to star in a game like this. BUt the play, running and intent is there. Lancaster will keep him for the next game.</p><p></p><p><u>Tuilagi</u> - was kept quiet by the Italy centres and didn't look his explosive self, looked a little subdued and without the ball is largely ineffective. Other then a big hit tackled he was not his usual self.</p><p></p><p><u>Barrit </u>- tackled, had good positioning but the game was more his style but Italy really had more of the game. 12T didn't offer any improvement when he left due to the nature of the game. Probably been better to keep him on the pitch for this kind of game (2nd half)</p><p></p><p><u>Care </u>- I am seriously thinking that maybe youngs just does offer that little bit more composure under pressure? the kick led to a try was at this level not acceptable is it? does anybody else think he just doesn't fit into the way Lancaster wants to play? But for sure must be applauded for trying different things like running against props to create openings. Is more attacking minded then youngs but youngs seems more solid.</p><p></p><p><u>FLood </u>- i just don't know about floody anymore he seems another (like care) who doesn't quote gel into the side/lancasters way of playing. He plays more flatter but takes it on himself which left him isolated for a few seconds until supporting players joined at the breakdown -risky and something Farell doesn't do unless running with the ball in hand is "on". Is more attacking but i just think he doesn't fit with the ideology how the side wants to play/lancaster wants. I can't see him playing ahead of burns to be honest from now on. Missed some corner kicks which someone like him is not acceptable with the number of caps he has. He tried to get the forwards working but Italy just kept England on the back foot.</p><p> </p><p><u>Wood</u> - playing out of position is going to be exposed one day and compared to his opposite number he surely was out-played. Its not woods fault his commitment, work rate is second to none but his position play as a 8 is not there as regular 8's. Just his sheer determination, doggedness, commitment gets him through player out of position. oh boy do we miss morgans runs from the base of the scrum. Overall not woods doing did what he was asked to do but his best position is back at 6 where he played before, another combative performance.</p><p> </p><p><u>T Youngs</u> - played with really energy and i can't see why he be left out of the Wales match. He just better in the loose isn't he? VERY quick for a prop due to his low centre of gravity and has great ball carrying ability. PLayed well but had to play more on the back foot. Scrum seemed ok with him at the centre.</p><p> </p><p><u>Mako Vunilpola</u> - played well, but is it necessary to carry a spare type mako?? GOod in scrum and a nuisance in the loose gets stuck in to the rucks and in the loose is very underrated. I expect him to start in wales.</p><p></p><p><strong>Subs:</strong> Lawes - what confidence and guts from courtney (and robshaw to back his lineout team) with 3 mins and few metres from touchline he wanted to fight for the lineout steal from Italy throw in! -and won it. I hope he plays as it looks possibility parling is injured but it seems JL and lawes have doubts for wales game. In the other games no other team had the balls to do this in a tight game. Rowntree afterwards kept banging on about how crucial and gutsy that was and seemed really proud -says all u need to know about how England played.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mstar, post: 556151, member: 59646"] I still scratch my head on the game. ok lets start with the players worthy discussion. [U]Ashton [/U]- ran a lot of good lines but due to the pressure and defense of Italy restricted him somewhat. Really i cannot fault him in this game its hard to star in a game like this. BUt the play, running and intent is there. Lancaster will keep him for the next game. [U]Tuilagi[/U] - was kept quiet by the Italy centres and didn't look his explosive self, looked a little subdued and without the ball is largely ineffective. Other then a big hit tackled he was not his usual self. [U]Barrit [/U]- tackled, had good positioning but the game was more his style but Italy really had more of the game. 12T didn't offer any improvement when he left due to the nature of the game. Probably been better to keep him on the pitch for this kind of game (2nd half) [U]Care [/U]- I am seriously thinking that maybe youngs just does offer that little bit more composure under pressure? the kick led to a try was at this level not acceptable is it? does anybody else think he just doesn't fit into the way Lancaster wants to play? But for sure must be applauded for trying different things like running against props to create openings. Is more attacking minded then youngs but youngs seems more solid. [U]FLood [/U]- i just don't know about floody anymore he seems another (like care) who doesn't quote gel into the side/lancasters way of playing. He plays more flatter but takes it on himself which left him isolated for a few seconds until supporting players joined at the breakdown -risky and something Farell doesn't do unless running with the ball in hand is "on". Is more attacking but i just think he doesn't fit with the ideology how the side wants to play/lancaster wants. I can't see him playing ahead of burns to be honest from now on. Missed some corner kicks which someone like him is not acceptable with the number of caps he has. He tried to get the forwards working but Italy just kept England on the back foot. [U]Wood[/U] - playing out of position is going to be exposed one day and compared to his opposite number he surely was out-played. Its not woods fault his commitment, work rate is second to none but his position play as a 8 is not there as regular 8's. Just his sheer determination, doggedness, commitment gets him through player out of position. oh boy do we miss morgans runs from the base of the scrum. Overall not woods doing did what he was asked to do but his best position is back at 6 where he played before, another combative performance. [U]T Youngs[/U] - played with really energy and i can't see why he be left out of the Wales match. He just better in the loose isn't he? VERY quick for a prop due to his low centre of gravity and has great ball carrying ability. PLayed well but had to play more on the back foot. Scrum seemed ok with him at the centre. [U]Mako Vunilpola[/U] - played well, but is it necessary to carry a spare type mako?? GOod in scrum and a nuisance in the loose gets stuck in to the rucks and in the loose is very underrated. I expect him to start in wales. [B]Subs:[/B] Lawes - what confidence and guts from courtney (and robshaw to back his lineout team) with 3 mins and few metres from touchline he wanted to fight for the lineout steal from Italy throw in! -and won it. I hope he plays as it looks possibility parling is injured but it seems JL and lawes have doubts for wales game. In the other games no other team had the balls to do this in a tight game. Rowntree afterwards kept banging on about how crucial and gutsy that was and seemed really proud -says all u need to know about how England played. [/QUOTE]
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