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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Reiser99" data-source="post: 1198632" data-attributes="member: 72977">So initial thoughts. Neither side is beating France, S.A or Ireland playing like that. It was a close game, but so many mistakes from both sides made it a close game, not necessarily the quality of the play.England still don't look like they can regularly score from open play. While it needed a good bit of off-loading, our only try came from an intercept. Even at the end against 14 we didn't actually trust our attack enough to try and score. I don't think they even considered going for the try. For me this game was key to see if we'd made any progress since the summer and it's a no. Maybe if we beat the Boks, but playing like that we won't.</blockquote>