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2024 Guinness Six Nations
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<blockquote data-quote="Bernard" data-source="post: 251614"><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Prestwick @ Mar 16 2009, 02:27 PM) <a href="http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=384940" target="_blank"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div></p><p></p><p>yeah, i read an article on the l'equipe website that was talking about that, and I was amazed. Can you imagine the English national side/ clubs agreeing to a key player going to play 7s in the middle of the international and club seasons?!!</p><p>[/b]</p></blockquote><p></p><p>Er, this is a country whose club and union allowed one of its key props to go on a <strong>Skiing holiday in the middle of the Six nations in a <u>World Cup year</u></strong>, I mean, <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-union/news-comment/rugby-decisions-they-lived-to-regret-1644442.html?action=Popup&ino=3" target="_blank">whats the worst that could happen?</a></p><p></p><p>And some people call the RFU's decision making screwed up, at least there is a basic understanding that club & country would rather its players think of nothing but the task at hand!!!</p><p>[/b][/quote]</p><p></p><p></p><p> <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /> Old french problems between the national federation and clubs , in France that is simply the war between the 2 sadly . Why international players of a french club plays 40 matches in a season ?? a new zealand player will play 20 matchs in a season ...i don't know how many match do british players exactly but it is definitly less than French club players ...I'm not saying that it is unfair , it is like that . And there is some foreigners in french club like Andy Goode <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p>That is a endless discussion in france since years ...and we really begin to understand that we won't be able to have a regularity and to be world champion if we don't change nothing about that . Some guys are beginning to talk about provinces like ireland or wales , in france ...but even if supporters of a lot of clubs in France are not happy with the French team results , they don't want to lose the cultural identity of their club so the do not agree with some important changes to do in the french championship . It is definitly sad that the federation has no power in France , it is really frustrating to not find any agreement with clubs . </p><p></p><p></p><p>BTW , one eyed jack wanted to answer <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /> </p><p></p><p>For our lovely Stuart Dickinson : </p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2007/jun/11/rugbyunion.sport" target="_blank">http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2007/jun/11/rugbyunion.sport</a></p><p></p><p>To be fair , i know that england had some problem for a missed try with him (a try from Cueto) ...but yeah with victorys we forget easily our "enemy" of the previous day ...And i think mr Dickinson does not appeciate France so much since he had some problems with Mr Laporte ....</p><p></p><p>I think the best to avoid "moody" and Random judgment from this guy , it would be good to fired him from international matchs because of several problems he had in the past with some teams . I know that it is complicated because a team could say at every moment "i do not want this referee anymore" and that would not be normal and fair but when the same referee has several times the same problem , IRB has the duty to question the referee judgement ...A question about that : are referees been chosen randomly for 6 nations tournament ?? </p><p></p><p>I will stop to gossip <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /> about that and say that England deserves his win yesterday and i'm sad for France who is always in his rollercoaster moments . it is frustrating :huh:</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Bernard, post: 251614"] <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Prestwick @ Mar 16 2009, 02:27 PM) [url='index.php?act=findpost&pid=384940']<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div> yeah, i read an article on the l'equipe website that was talking about that, and I was amazed. Can you imagine the English national side/ clubs agreeing to a key player going to play 7s in the middle of the international and club seasons?!! [/b][/quote] Er, this is a country whose club and union allowed one of its key props to go on a [b]Skiing holiday in the middle of the Six nations in a [u]World Cup year[/u][/b], I mean, [url="http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-union/news-comment/rugby-decisions-they-lived-to-regret-1644442.html?action=Popup&ino=3"]whats the worst that could happen?[/url] And some people call the RFU's decision making screwed up, at least there is a basic understanding that club & country would rather its players think of nothing but the task at hand!!! [/b][/quote] :( Old french problems between the national federation and clubs , in France that is simply the war between the 2 sadly . Why international players of a french club plays 40 matches in a season ?? a new zealand player will play 20 matchs in a season ...i don't know how many match do british players exactly but it is definitly less than French club players ...I'm not saying that it is unfair , it is like that . And there is some foreigners in french club like Andy Goode ;) That is a endless discussion in france since years ...and we really begin to understand that we won't be able to have a regularity and to be world champion if we don't change nothing about that . Some guys are beginning to talk about provinces like ireland or wales , in france ...but even if supporters of a lot of clubs in France are not happy with the French team results , they don't want to lose the cultural identity of their club so the do not agree with some important changes to do in the french championship . It is definitly sad that the federation has no power in France , it is really frustrating to not find any agreement with clubs . BTW , one eyed jack wanted to answer :P For our lovely Stuart Dickinson : [url="http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2007/jun/11/rugbyunion.sport"]http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2007/jun/11/rugbyunion.sport[/url] To be fair , i know that england had some problem for a missed try with him (a try from Cueto) ...but yeah with victorys we forget easily our "enemy" of the previous day ...And i think mr Dickinson does not appeciate France so much since he had some problems with Mr Laporte .... I think the best to avoid "moody" and Random judgment from this guy , it would be good to fired him from international matchs because of several problems he had in the past with some teams . I know that it is complicated because a team could say at every moment "i do not want this referee anymore" and that would not be normal and fair but when the same referee has several times the same problem , IRB has the duty to question the referee judgement ...A question about that : are referees been chosen randomly for 6 nations tournament ?? I will stop to gossip :P about that and say that England deserves his win yesterday and i'm sad for France who is always in his rollercoaster moments . it is frustrating :huh: [/QUOTE]
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