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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vieux Talonneur" data-source="post: 1221291" data-attributes="member: 73144">Neither's been captaining that long. In the 6N Itoje was leading a team on the up while Ire stagnated - not all to do with the individuals of course, but the associations are pretty powerful.I guess there are a couple of things that might clinch it for Itoje. Firstly, he has 2 tours under his belt whereas Doris has no idea what it entails yet. In a short tour there's not time to learn, you have to hit the ground running. Plus Itoje simply has a bigger standing in the world game - not to diss Doris at all, but he hasn't got that status or appeal.It'll probably be Tuipulotu <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😀" title="Grinning face    :grinning:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" data-shortname=":grinning:" /></blockquote>