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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vieux Talonneur" data-source="post: 1218135" data-attributes="member: 73144">Not harsh at all, that's exactly what's happening. He was under qualified for the job, but he's got it and unless things get catastrophic he will now have it for a while, so our best hope is that he IS learning and on the grounds that the best learnings come from what doesn't go so well he's got a bit to work with. Maybe as time goes on he'll also get the confidence to surround himself with a top class coaching team.If one of those marginal games v NZ had gone our way - as at least one should - then we'd have beaten 3 of the top 4 in the world over the course of a year which not many do and I'd guess we haven't done for a very long time.</blockquote>