So George doubtful, IFW, Underhill and Furbank out.

Chessum (fitness?), Martin, Heyes, JvP and Steward have just had their backsides handed to them on a plate.

Itoje, Dan, Earl and Willis all involved in a chastening defeat too. Also bit of a bad one for Bath.

At least the Sale and Saints players should be reasonably upbeat although Sleightholme didn't play this weekend and is having to manage his hamstring carefully.

Add in last year's results and its hard to imagine the mood in camp being too upbeat.