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<blockquote data-quote="Peat" data-source="post: 452713" data-attributes="member: 42330">Pietersen has an English mother. Don&#039;t recall the exacts of Trott&#039;s ancestry, but he had a British passport before ever coming here to the best of my knowledge and is clearly of English descent.Players like these I will never have a problem with (with the except of Waldrom, who didn&#039;t even know he had an English grandmother when he came here ffs). People with no tie like Morgan or Hape I do have issues with... even there, there are slight nuances. Morgan had no chance at representing his home country at test cricket on account of them not being a test nation, briefly attended school in England and has been playing in England since he was 20. Flutey and Hape both could have played test match rugby for New Zealand. Hape did play test match rugby league for New Zealand. Flutey only came over here aged 25. I believe Morgan when he said he talked about playing for England as a teenager. I wouldn&#039;t believe Flutey or Hape if they said the same thing.And so on. I believe I have now rambled entirely off from the point you were making...These are the trickiest to me. Both have been here long enough to qualify for British passports through residency. Both have received substantial amounts of their rugby education in England. I can believe they feel English in part and want to give something back. Yet I strongly doubt they&#039;re English in the same way that you and I are (big assumption there). Generally, I&#039;d say passport holders should be allowed to play for their country (an inconsistent standard I know), but should only be picked if there is genuine feeling on part of the player... which most fans have no way of knowing.They&#039;re both more worthy than Waldrom, that&#039;s for sure...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Peat, post: 452713, member: 42330"] Pietersen has an English mother. Don't recall the exacts of Trott's ancestry, but he had a British passport before ever coming here to the best of my knowledge and is clearly of English descent. Players like these I will never have a problem with (with the except of Waldrom, who didn't even know he had an English grandmother when he came here ffs). People with no tie like Morgan or Hape I do have issues with... even there, there are slight nuances. Morgan had no chance at representing his home country at test cricket on account of them not being a test nation, briefly attended school in England and has been playing in England since he was 20. Flutey and Hape both could have played test match rugby for New Zealand. Hape did play test match rugby league for New Zealand. Flutey only came over here aged 25. I believe Morgan when he said he talked about playing for England as a teenager. I wouldn't believe Flutey or Hape if they said the same thing. And so on. I believe I have now rambled entirely off from the point you were making... These are the trickiest to me. Both have been here long enough to qualify for British passports through residency. Both have received substantial amounts of their rugby education in England. I can believe they feel English in part and want to give something back. Yet I strongly doubt they're English in the same way that you and I are (big assumption there). Generally, I'd say passport holders should be allowed to play for their country (an inconsistent standard I know), but should only be picked if there is genuine feeling on part of the player... which most fans have no way of knowing. They're both more worthy than Waldrom, that's for sure... [/QUOTE]

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