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Does RSA have any players from Lesotho, Swaziland, Zimbabwe, Botswana?
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<blockquote data-quote="TRF_stormer2010" data-source="post: 760557" data-attributes="member: 39190"><p>I'm sure we can entertain one or two OT posts. If it comes to more I'll move posts.</p><p></p><p>While I don't think SA splitting up is likely I do feel it is more likely than other Southern African nations assimilating with SA. Splits could be manifold. The most obvious one would be the Western Cape splitting from the rest of SA. It is a province that has zero traditional black influence since European settlers setled here before the Nguni tribes moved far enough West. The indemic people (Khoi and San) are few and are mostly assimilated into Cape colored communities (mixed decendants of the Malay slaves brought to the Cape, indemic tribes and European settlers). This is by far the biggest demographic group in the region followed by whites. The black people in the Cape are mostly here on a temporary basis for work staying in temporary structures and see themselves as migrant workers rather than Cape based (generalising here of course but it'll be the case for ~80% of the black population). The Cape is also the only province where the ANC has been struggling to get a majority vote (even with alliances with other parties). There is a small movement for Cape independence called the Cape Party. The main focus of this party is not racial/political though but economic and the claim is that the Cape is funding other provinces and that Cape tax money should rather work here where there is also need. Culture is also very different to the rest of SA. The Northern and Western Cape have Afrikaans as the majority home language- distribution in green:</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH]4034[/ATTACH] </p><p></p><p>Remember that SA was arbitrarily mashed togetehr by the British Empire and prior to that consisted of a number of independant states (of differing forms) very dissimilar from each other. The old Boer republics though contain the major urban sentra and urbanisation has made it very cosmopolitan. Beyond that though the 'old' identities remain very much intact and these are the lines that could split. Other than the Cape provinces KwaZULU Natal could split from the rest of SA. To some extent I think Jacob Zuma was elected head of the ANC to placate the Zulus who havn't always been very happy withn SA and see themselves as a people apart as well.</p><p></p><p>This article sums it up pretty well other than the fact that the author calls it in black and white and somehow manages to exclude the majority of the Cape population by calling it "whites only". Also, the most notable Cape secession movements aren't what one could call 'conservative white' at all. Anycase, here is a link summing up the situation and considerations rather well (allowing for some inaccuracies); <a href="http://www.enca.com/opinion/could-western-cape-secede" target="_blank">http://www.enca.com/opinion/could-western-cape-secede</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TRF_stormer2010, post: 760557, member: 39190"] I'm sure we can entertain one or two OT posts. If it comes to more I'll move posts. While I don't think SA splitting up is likely I do feel it is more likely than other Southern African nations assimilating with SA. Splits could be manifold. The most obvious one would be the Western Cape splitting from the rest of SA. It is a province that has zero traditional black influence since European settlers setled here before the Nguni tribes moved far enough West. The indemic people (Khoi and San) are few and are mostly assimilated into Cape colored communities (mixed decendants of the Malay slaves brought to the Cape, indemic tribes and European settlers). This is by far the biggest demographic group in the region followed by whites. The black people in the Cape are mostly here on a temporary basis for work staying in temporary structures and see themselves as migrant workers rather than Cape based (generalising here of course but it'll be the case for ~80% of the black population). The Cape is also the only province where the ANC has been struggling to get a majority vote (even with alliances with other parties). There is a small movement for Cape independence called the Cape Party. The main focus of this party is not racial/political though but economic and the claim is that the Cape is funding other provinces and that Cape tax money should rather work here where there is also need. Culture is also very different to the rest of SA. The Northern and Western Cape have Afrikaans as the majority home language- distribution in green: [ATTACH]4034.vB[/ATTACH] Remember that SA was arbitrarily mashed togetehr by the British Empire and prior to that consisted of a number of independant states (of differing forms) very dissimilar from each other. The old Boer republics though contain the major urban sentra and urbanisation has made it very cosmopolitan. Beyond that though the 'old' identities remain very much intact and these are the lines that could split. Other than the Cape provinces KwaZULU Natal could split from the rest of SA. To some extent I think Jacob Zuma was elected head of the ANC to placate the Zulus who havn't always been very happy withn SA and see themselves as a people apart as well. This article sums it up pretty well other than the fact that the author calls it in black and white and somehow manages to exclude the majority of the Cape population by calling it "whites only". Also, the most notable Cape secession movements aren't what one could call 'conservative white' at all. Anycase, here is a link summing up the situation and considerations rather well (allowing for some inaccuracies); [url]http://www.enca.com/opinion/could-western-cape-secede[/url] [/QUOTE]
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