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<blockquote data-quote="Rugby_Cymru" data-source="post: 93144"><p>What do you mean "why at all?"?</p><p>I am on DC's side here. DC may not be an adult yet, but it's proven that youngsters will benefit greatly from lifting weights (not excessively heavy ones, of course) and that it only helps with the growth process rather than stunting their growth as so many people believe. A kids growth is stunted only if they do heavy weights.</p><p>Have a look around (at least in my area) schools are encouraging kids to use weight machines etc. Honestly it's good for them.</p><p>Now you do understand the need for protein, right?</p><p>If DC didn't take protein after his workout then his body would experience muscle breakdown. He's decided (and advisedly so) to work out in the gym, therefore his body needs replenishment...this comes in the form of protein shakes.</p><p>I mean, what happens to you if you don't eat? Your body goes for your reserves - it's a last resort, but it's willing to do so to survive. If DC didn't take a protein shake wtihin 20 mins after workout then he would most certainly have to eat very soon after, otherwise his whole gym session would have just gone to waste because the muscles need to repair and the body wouldn't be able to do so because it doens't have the nutrients with which to do so. The body uses protein fibres to repair and when it has been through a tough workout it will have already used up quite a bit of protein to help it, but post-work out it needs a boost of protein and this comes (quickly) in the form of whey protein.</p><p>I am quite passionate about the gym and all the benefits it has and how to make those benefits as effective as possible. </p><p>Both me and the boys in work wake up to a protein shake, then have breakfast. Have another protein shake at 11am. Lunch at 1pm. Potein shake 1hr/30mins prior to work out. Protein shake 20 mins after work out. Evening meal. Late night (carb free(healthy)) snack. Whey protein mixed with milk OR Casein protein right before bed.</p><p>This is a constant (and balanced) intake of protein, carbs and sugars designed to meet our training.</p><p></p><p>If i were to say anything to DC it wouldn't be to lighten off, infact i'd tell you to keep working just as hard as you are and even push yourself further. Also, up your intake of protein. The more you eat the bigger you'll get. FACT. But control what you eat and when you eat it and then you'll get big in the way you want (especially considering you're 16...perfectly old enough to start weight lifting and packing on those lb's of muscle.)</p><p>A minimum should in my eyes should be that you should take a protein shake after every work out.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>How did you come to the conclusion that it's "healthier for you?" </p><p>There's nothing UNNATURAL about taking protein shakes. Having a protein shake IS allowing your natural recovery time to work. There is nothing "healthier" about avoiding protein shakes, trust me.</p><p>As long as your not "roiding it up" increasing your recovery rate thanks to increased testosterone levels then taking the protein is ideal.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't mean to sound over-critical, but i get the feeling that you are arguing an issue that you haven't done any reading on and you are bringing DC down on a subject which he's is mostly correct on.</p><p></p><p>Plus, i say, copy the professional rugby players.</p><p>Better than copying Jay Cutler or Ronnie Coleman!</p><p>The rugby players are doing it right.</p><p></p><p>Supplement does NOT = steroid-esque drug.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rugby_Cymru, post: 93144"] What do you mean "why at all?"? I am on DC's side here. DC may not be an adult yet, but it's proven that youngsters will benefit greatly from lifting weights (not excessively heavy ones, of course) and that it only helps with the growth process rather than stunting their growth as so many people believe. A kids growth is stunted only if they do heavy weights. Have a look around (at least in my area) schools are encouraging kids to use weight machines etc. Honestly it's good for them. Now you do understand the need for protein, right? If DC didn't take protein after his workout then his body would experience muscle breakdown. He's decided (and advisedly so) to work out in the gym, therefore his body needs replenishment...this comes in the form of protein shakes. I mean, what happens to you if you don't eat? Your body goes for your reserves - it's a last resort, but it's willing to do so to survive. If DC didn't take a protein shake wtihin 20 mins after workout then he would most certainly have to eat very soon after, otherwise his whole gym session would have just gone to waste because the muscles need to repair and the body wouldn't be able to do so because it doens't have the nutrients with which to do so. The body uses protein fibres to repair and when it has been through a tough workout it will have already used up quite a bit of protein to help it, but post-work out it needs a boost of protein and this comes (quickly) in the form of whey protein. I am quite passionate about the gym and all the benefits it has and how to make those benefits as effective as possible. Both me and the boys in work wake up to a protein shake, then have breakfast. Have another protein shake at 11am. Lunch at 1pm. Potein shake 1hr/30mins prior to work out. Protein shake 20 mins after work out. Evening meal. Late night (carb free(healthy)) snack. Whey protein mixed with milk OR Casein protein right before bed. This is a constant (and balanced) intake of protein, carbs and sugars designed to meet our training. If i were to say anything to DC it wouldn't be to lighten off, infact i'd tell you to keep working just as hard as you are and even push yourself further. Also, up your intake of protein. The more you eat the bigger you'll get. FACT. But control what you eat and when you eat it and then you'll get big in the way you want (especially considering you're 16...perfectly old enough to start weight lifting and packing on those lb's of muscle.) A minimum should in my eyes should be that you should take a protein shake after every work out. How did you come to the conclusion that it's "healthier for you?" There's nothing UNNATURAL about taking protein shakes. Having a protein shake IS allowing your natural recovery time to work. There is nothing "healthier" about avoiding protein shakes, trust me. As long as your not "roiding it up" increasing your recovery rate thanks to increased testosterone levels then taking the protein is ideal. I don't mean to sound over-critical, but i get the feeling that you are arguing an issue that you haven't done any reading on and you are bringing DC down on a subject which he's is mostly correct on. Plus, i say, copy the professional rugby players. Better than copying Jay Cutler or Ronnie Coleman! The rugby players are doing it right. Supplement does NOT = steroid-esque drug. [/QUOTE]
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