Coaches

[Olliekooga]

Hi Guys

Over the course of this 6 Nations it seems coaches are coming very much to the fore. Robinson, Lancaster and Saint Andre have all been heavily mentioned as well as the Italian guy (is it Busel) who transformed Auche and Colomiers.

My question is this, These coaches are highly respected at the top level but how much "coaching" actually goes on at international level?

I have played a fairly decent level and for some invitational sides and training usually consisted of running moves and set pieces rather than things like technique and other traditional areas of coaching.

Do we think international coaches assume too much in regards to the players knowledge of technique etc? I'm thinking mainly of things like effective clearing at rucks and other technical points.

I know these guys are at the top of the game and are hugely knowledgable about the game but all coaches have a way they prefer certain things done and this can differ from coach to coach.

Thoughts Please

Ollie

 

[ThatFellowEdwards]

You can't teach an International player how to catch the ball, beat a man, kick to touch, throw in to the lineout etc. Andy Robinson seems to be taking a load of flack for the Scottish players inabilty to hold a rugby ball and run with it. Nonsense in my opinion. That's a bigger issue.

What you CAN do is make sure everyone is singing off the same hymn sheet, has definitive roles within the team, have a game plan that corresponds to who you are playing, make sure everyone knows where the danger is coming from etc.

Not that I've ever been an International coach mind you! I guess the most technical thing they'd work on would be set pieces and back-line moves.

 

[SelimNiai]

Hi Guys

Over the course of this 6 Nations it seems coaches are coming very much to the fore. Robinson, Lancaster and Saint Andre have all been heavily mentioned as well as the Italian guy (is it Busel) who transformed Auche and Colomiers.

My question is this, These coaches are highly respected at the top level but how much "coaching" actually goes on at international level?

I have played a fairly decent level and for some invitational sides and training usually consisted of running moves and set pieces rather than things like technique and other traditional areas of coaching.

Do we think international coaches assume too much in regards to the players knowledge of technique etc? I'm thinking mainly of things like effective clearing at rucks and other technical points.

I know these guys are at the top of the game and are hugely knowledgable about the game but all coaches have a way they prefer certain things done and this can differ from coach to coach.

Thoughts Please

Ollie

Watch either the 97 or 09 Lions diary DVDs. Then you will see there is a hell of a lot of coaching going on.

 

[welshglory]

Most of the time the coaches job is just to create an environment where the players can do their thing.
He does the analysis, where they should target the opposition, tactics, management of the players. I don't think there is actually a lot of coaching involved as some might think.

 

[ThatFellowEdwards]

Different shaped ball, I know, but John Hartson once said of Martin O'Neil at Celtic...

"You'd lie down in traffic for him"

I think that sums up what a good coach or manager is all about.