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CJ Stander to retire at the end of the season
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<blockquote data-quote="Leonormous Boozer" data-source="post: 1030951" data-attributes="member: 45598"><p>It's really really not. Judges decisions are heavily scrutinized in and out of their jurisdictions, judiciaries are ranked worldwide and this will be considered when businesses are incorporating in a country. A judge is responsible for the rights and wellbeing of citizens and most take pay cuts to become a one in the first place. It's far, far more patriotic and important than playing a sport.</p><p></p><p>I'm clearly not suggesting that, if Stander was T2 he'd have been picked while playing for Munster.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Again it's really not, look at Ryan Giggs and Stephen Ireland, they refused to play for their countries throughout their careers to protect their club careers. Declan Rice played for Ireland, shouted "up the Ra" at parties and is now playing for England because of the extra sponsorship, opportunities etc... he'll get. Diego Costa choosing Spain because he's a bigger name there than Brazil is another example of how diluted the international soccer game is.</p><p></p><p>Do Martin Castrogiovanni and Diego Dominguez just not exist? If you could give me examples of players qualifying through residency and being good enough to play for Argentina and not being picked I'd believe you but let's be honest this doesn't happen because the players good enough for international football move to Europe or have already been picked by their home nation while playing in the Argentinian or Brazilian leagues before qualifying.</p><p>This just reads to me like "We're so great because we don't do it, we're better than them... Yeah, we literally don't have the opportunity to do it but we wouldn't if we did, also ignore those players that did it, we don't talk about them".</p><p></p><p>I just want to watch good rugby and have reasonable rules, which I think are mostly in place bar the 20s not committing you to a nation. They weren't for the start of CJ's career but for more than half of his caps it was literally an Irishman playing for Ireland.</p><p></p><p>Currently James Lowe has five caps, he has said how he thinks it's ridiculous he's playing for Ireland and I agree with him. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Edit: it's clear anyway we just don't agree here. I just don't rate sport as the height of patriotism, far from it. I think I have a pretty realistic view of things but understand that people will probably think it's a very money first and individualistic view, it definitely is to a degree but not to the point that I'm holding Sportspeople to a lower standard than anyone else.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Leonormous Boozer, post: 1030951, member: 45598"] It's really really not. Judges decisions are heavily scrutinized in and out of their jurisdictions, judiciaries are ranked worldwide and this will be considered when businesses are incorporating in a country. A judge is responsible for the rights and wellbeing of citizens and most take pay cuts to become a one in the first place. It's far, far more patriotic and important than playing a sport. I'm clearly not suggesting that, if Stander was T2 he'd have been picked while playing for Munster. Again it's really not, look at Ryan Giggs and Stephen Ireland, they refused to play for their countries throughout their careers to protect their club careers. Declan Rice played for Ireland, shouted "up the Ra" at parties and is now playing for England because of the extra sponsorship, opportunities etc... he'll get. Diego Costa choosing Spain because he's a bigger name there than Brazil is another example of how diluted the international soccer game is. Do Martin Castrogiovanni and Diego Dominguez just not exist? If you could give me examples of players qualifying through residency and being good enough to play for Argentina and not being picked I'd believe you but let's be honest this doesn't happen because the players good enough for international football move to Europe or have already been picked by their home nation while playing in the Argentinian or Brazilian leagues before qualifying. This just reads to me like "We're so great because we don't do it, we're better than them... Yeah, we literally don't have the opportunity to do it but we wouldn't if we did, also ignore those players that did it, we don't talk about them". I just want to watch good rugby and have reasonable rules, which I think are mostly in place bar the 20s not committing you to a nation. They weren't for the start of CJ's career but for more than half of his caps it was literally an Irishman playing for Ireland. Currently James Lowe has five caps, he has said how he thinks it's ridiculous he's playing for Ireland and I agree with him. Edit: it's clear anyway we just don't agree here. I just don't rate sport as the height of patriotism, far from it. I think I have a pretty realistic view of things but understand that people will probably think it's a very money first and individualistic view, it definitely is to a degree but not to the point that I'm holding Sportspeople to a lower standard than anyone else. [/QUOTE]
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