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<blockquote data-quote="Bargoedboy" data-source="post: 328521" data-attributes="member: 42380"><p>Smartcooky wrote and complained about my grammar !</p><p>I have run my <span style="color: red"><u>analyses</u> </span>of those videos past a number of people, including a former South African provincial prop<span style="color: red">,</span> who now lives in NZ and a Senior referee. I have also run it past members of an international rugby referees forum, which has a membership including English, Welsh, Irish, Scottish and Argentinian referees.<span style="color: red"><u> Most </u>[/COLOR<span style="color: green">]( I am not the only one who doesn’t agree then?) </span>are in agreement. Interestingly, the South African prop picked up the same issue that Cymro did.</span></p><p><span style="color: red"></span></p><p><span style="color: red">► The fact that the iRB Disciplinary Committee rescinded Tialata's yellow card proves it<span style="color: red">.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: red">► The fact that Dickinson got an adverse report<span style="color: red"> form </span>the Match Assessor (NOT O'BRIEN!!!!) proves it<span style="color: red">.</span>► The fact that he was sent for remedial scrum management<span style="color: red"> raining [/COLOR<span style="color: green">](personally I would have Trained him)</span> proves it<span style="color: red">.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red">► The fact that he was not subsequently appointed to any 6N or 3N matches proves it<span style="color: red">.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: green">Yet he has been rated in the Top 3 SANZAR Referees after being appointed to a Semi-Final in Soweto. The appointments for the 2010 Finals series were based solely on merit, and not nationality.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: green">So a very quick turnaround in quality!</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><strong><span style="color: green">Cymro also wrote same!</span></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red">Personally I don't think you got that call right. The<span style="color: red"> Italy [/COLOR<span style="color: green">](Italian?)</span>THP did start<span style="color: red"> of [/COLOR<span style="color: green">](off?) </span>straight as Dickinson said, he is then correct about stepping out but not correct about driving down. For me Black LHP<span style="color: red"> boar </span><span style="color: green">(bore, is the correct word you are looking for)</span>in, whilst also binding on the underneath of the shirt, attempting to make sure that<span style="color: red"> Italy</span><span style="color: green">(Italian?) </span>THP collapses. I do also accept that the Italian THP is also binding illegally on the arm. At the end, it was half a dozen one way and half a dozen the other way on this one.<span style="color: red"> The </span>Best thing Dickinson should have done was reset the scrum, making clear<span style="color: red"> for[/COLOR<span style="color: green">](to</span>) both props to bind correctly and to hit and drive straight.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red">But the rest Dickinson as you said, got it in a right mess. </span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red">@</span>Bargoedboy don't go writing in <span style="color: red">caps</span> (capitals)and calling other members names<span style="color: red">...</span><span style="color: green">(.)</span><span style="color: red"> i</span>t's as you would say …quite childish.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><u></u></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><u><span style="color: green">Kettle calling sauce-pan black I think.</span></u><span style="color: green"></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: green"></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: green">What it must be like, for you to be so wonderful and perfect, with the only opinions that count!</span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: green">Your own little web page for you to play on.</span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: green">You sad little pedant.</span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: green"></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: green">Now one thing you have quoted has hit the nail right on the head, MOST, this infers not all refs agreed with you or O`Brien.</span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: green">Therefore, it must mean we are looking at interpretations of the laws, not the absolute law. </span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: green">Thank you I rest my case. </span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: green">Sorry to all other posters, who have become frustrated by my refusal to back down to the great Smartcooky.</span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: green">In the words of a very fine actress, “wot a ******` liberty!†</span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: green">(Ps, that was slang before you tell me you have a degree in literacy!)</span><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red">The point I made about laws for THP was to show, what he was doing, not Tialata.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red"><span style="color: red">As for Altering bind, again to alter is to adjust, if Tialata has not made a bind by placing hand on floor, he is not engaging correctly and not making a bind. First penalty as you say should go safety first, if props do not bind, scrum will go down, one did bind. B)</span></span></span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bargoedboy, post: 328521, member: 42380"] Smartcooky wrote and complained about my grammar ! I have run my [COLOR="red"][U]analyses[/U] [/COLOR]of those videos past a number of people, including a former South African provincial prop[COLOR="red"],[/COLOR] who now lives in NZ and a Senior referee. I have also run it past members of an international rugby referees forum, which has a membership including English, Welsh, Irish, Scottish and Argentinian referees.[COLOR="red"][U] Most [/U][/COLOR[COLOR="green"]]( I am not the only one who doesn’t agree then?) [/COLOR]are in agreement. Interestingly, the South African prop picked up the same issue that Cymro did. ► The fact that the[COLOR="red"] [/COLOR]iRB Disciplinary Committee rescinded Tialata's yellow card proves it[COLOR="red"].[/COLOR] ► The fact that Dickinson got an adverse report[COLOR="red"] form [/COLOR]the Match Assessor (NOT O'BRIEN!!!!) proves it[COLOR="red"].[/COLOR]► The fact that he was sent for remedial scrum management[COLOR="red"] raining [/COLOR[COLOR="green"]](personally I would have Trained him)[/COLOR] proves it[COLOR="red"].[/COLOR] ► The fact that he was not subsequently appointed to any 6N or 3N matches proves it[COLOR="red"].[/COLOR] [COLOR="green"]Yet he has been rated in the Top 3 SANZAR Referees after being appointed to a Semi-Final in Soweto. The appointments for the 2010 Finals series were based solely on merit, and not nationality. So a very quick turnaround in quality![/COLOR] [B][COLOR="green"]Cymro also wrote same![/COLOR][/B] Personally I don't think you got that call right. The[COLOR="red"] Italy [/COLOR[COLOR="green"]](Italian?)[/COLOR]THP did start[COLOR="red"] of [/COLOR[COLOR="green"]](off?) [/COLOR]straight as Dickinson said, he is then correct about stepping out but not correct about driving down. For me Black LHP[COLOR="red"] boar [/COLOR][COLOR="green"](bore, is the correct word you are looking for)[/COLOR]in, whilst also binding on the underneath of the shirt, attempting to make sure that[COLOR="red"] Italy[/COLOR][COLOR="green"](Italian?) [/COLOR]THP collapses. I do also accept that the Italian THP is also binding illegally on the arm. At the end, it was half a dozen one way and half a dozen the other way on this one.[COLOR="red"] The [/COLOR]Best thing Dickinson should have done was reset the scrum, making clear[COLOR="red"] for[/COLOR[COLOR="green"]](to[/COLOR]) both props to bind correctly and to hit and drive straight. But the rest Dickinson as you said, got it in a right mess. [COLOR="red"]@[/COLOR]Bargoedboy don't go writing in [COLOR="red"]caps[/COLOR] (capitals)and calling other members names[COLOR="red"]...[/COLOR][COLOR="green"](.)[/COLOR][COLOR="red"] i[/COLOR]t's as you would say …quite childish. [U] [COLOR="green"]Kettle calling sauce-pan black I think.[/COLOR][/U][COLOR="green"] What it must be like, for you to be so wonderful and perfect, with the only opinions that count! Your own little web page for you to play on. You sad little pedant. Now one thing you have quoted has hit the nail right on the head, MOST, this infers not all refs agreed with you or O`Brien. Therefore, it must mean we are looking at interpretations of the laws, not the absolute law. Thank you I rest my case. Sorry to all other posters, who have become frustrated by my refusal to back down to the great Smartcooky. In the words of a very fine actress, “wot a ******` liberty!†(Ps, that was slang before you tell me you have a degree in literacy!)[/COLOR]:p The point I made about laws for THP was to show, what he was doing, not Tialata. As for Altering bind, again to alter is to adjust, if Tialata has not made a bind by placing hand on floor, he is not engaging correctly and not making a bind. First penalty as you say should go safety first, if props do not bind, scrum will go down, one did bind. B)[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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