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Challenge Cup - Round 3

Big Ewis

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Aww fkn, seriously ?!! Do I have to do it all on here ?! I don't even give a shiit about it, okay fine or else I wouldn't be doing this, 2 shiits about it.


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Stadio Frianco rocking a joke side again, if not for Digby Ioane and maybe Steyn who's second choice but not "joke" like.
 
Interesting to see how inu gets on. Was a very good league player on his day and can do sme brilliant but he is also capable of being awful.
 
Aww fkn, seriously ?!! Do I have to do it all on here ?! I don't even give a shiit about it, okay fine or else I wouldn't be doing this, 2 shiits about it.


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Looks like you give more **** than French clubs do about Europe, Big E ;)

had to look at some of those names twice...never heard of a lot of them before, definite 2nd string for SF.

None of the French team are taking Europe seriously any longer, except the big 3 of Toulon Clermont Toulouse

They'll be firing blank all weekend :lol:
 
Looks like you give more **** than French clubs do about Europe, Big E ;)

had to look at some of those names twice...never heard of a lot of them before, definite 2nd string for SF.

None of the French team are taking Europe seriously any longer, except the big 3 of Toulon Clermont Toulouse

They'll be firing blank all weekend :lol:

no I don't at all, nobody does in France in France...the website Rugbyrama even forgot the La Rochelle game was playing and had no information live about it :lol:
it's just forum duty I felt this needed to be up, and I had this Parisian lineup that needed to be posted..

Exeter are probably a good Rugby team, but 10-36 over in La Rochelle really puts things into perspective. I looked at the lineup, I recognized Gourdon, Audy and a couple of those Fijian backs. And Barraque was starting in this one...you see that Parisian lineup I posted, Top 14 teams can't give a damn about this comp, they just won't..too bad, would've given good entertainment, but they just won't play it.

Montypellier over in the big Cup would've liked to take it seriously this year, but then the BS happened...and Castres, they have much bigger problems right now than the Euro Cup !...I think Racing really have ambitions this year, I really do.
 
Same here. Interest is at his lowest possibly in 10 years from what I can tell.:zzz:
 
Looks like you give more **** than French clubs do about Europe, Big E ;)

had to look at some of those names twice...never heard of a lot of them before, definite 2nd string for SF.

None of the French team are taking Europe seriously any longer, except the big 3 of Toulon Clermont Toulouse

They'll be firing blank all weekend :lol:

They're the only French teams that can realistically win it though, the other French teams know they don't have a chance no matter what teams they put out.
 
I've even seen a thread on a French forum (which I 100% agree with) which realistically asked whether teams could pull out of the comp. For French teams, reasons like low income, a lack of TV coverage, more risk for injuries, compromising their Top 14 season and avoiding relegation, the fact this comp inevitably complicates and confuses their season and goals "running after two rabbits"...
And I mean in life you either do things right or you don't do em at all. Modest French sides WILL throw in 2nd, 3rd string sides and it's not true they get to try out youngsters, if losing by 30 at home is the price to pay surely that's not the way to go and the circumstances aren't right. They just don't have the budget, and the Top 14 is by far the hardest season of any league in terms of the pressure it inflicts on its actors; players, staff or ownership.

They're the only French teams that can realistically win it though, the other French teams know they don't have a chance no matter what teams they put out.

Incorrect. Talking about the Champions Cup, Montpellier had more than a chance this year and at the start of the season practically had a foot in qualification. Castres are a team that won the Bouclier and then made the final again the following year beating all of Montpellier, Clermont and even Toulon the one time; they just throw in some second stringers (along with first team members) and their commitment to the Cup is highly questionable anyways.
You say "no matter what teams they put out", no; there's no doubt those teams could produce interesting results if they didn't have the massive, unique pressure of the Top 14 season hanging over their heads and they can't afford to play pretty and compete on BOTH fronts with equal ambitions and hunger. There's no doubt those clubs if they played the Euro Cup like their Top 14 season, i.e. put out their very best AND give it their all they would surely have different results to show.

As for Racing, last year was a freak show. They've already beaten the English champs this year and let's just watch and see what they do from now on then.
 
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Don't waste your breath Big E. They wouldn't know the first player in the first team of the "other teams"...

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no I don't at all, nobody does in France in France...the website Rugbyrama even forgot the La Rochelle game was playing and had no information live about it :lol:

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rugbyrama didn't report?! amazing...now if rugbyrama don't even report, they really don't give a flying ****
 
Don't waste your breath Big E. They wouldn't know the first player in the first team of the "other teams"...

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rugbyrama didn't report?! amazing...now if rugbyrama don't even report, they really don't give a flying ****

hehehe, yeah man serious. Yesterday I was on the forum and the latest posts were about Exeter and I checked RR and they had no live results or even an announcement for it :p not a single fk given
 
I've even seen a thread on a French forum (which I 100% agree with) which realistically asked whether teams could pull out of the comp. For French teams, reasons like low income, a lack of TV coverage, more risk for injuries, compromising their Top 14 season and avoiding relegation, the fact this comp inevitably complicates and confuses their season and goals "running after two rabbits"...
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Yes they're using it to blood new academy players and players returning from injury. Many coaches have been very open about it. Christophe Urios of Oyonnax was saying nothing different again today http://www.lequipe.fr/Rugby/Actualites/Comment-oyonnax-s-en-sert/519641

that's what this competition is good for and nothing else.

What about the big European Cup are we seeing a lack of interest? Time for a new competition like Top 14 v Super 15 as a remplacement?
 
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I've even seen a thread on a French forum (which I 100% agree with) which realistically asked whether teams could pull out of the comp. For French teams, reasons like low income, a lack of TV coverage, more risk for injuries, compromising their Top 14 season and avoiding relegation, the fact this comp inevitably complicates and confuses their season and goals "running after two rabbits"...
And I mean in life you either do things right or you don't do em at all. Modest French sides WILL throw in 2nd, 3rd string sides and it's not true they get to try out youngsters, if losing by 30 at home is the price to pay surely that's not the way to go and the circumstances aren't right. They just don't have the budget, and the Top 14 is by far the hardest season of any league in terms of the pressure it inflicts on its actors; players, staff or ownership.



Incorrect. Talking about the Champions Cup, Montpellier had more than a chance this year and at the start of the season practically had a foot in qualification. Castres are a team that won the Bouclier and then made the final again the following year beating all of Montpellier, Clermont and even Toulon the one time; they just throw in some second stringers (along with first team members) and their commitment to the Cup is highly questionable anyways.
You say "no matter what teams they put out", no; there's no doubt those teams could produce interesting results if they didn't have the massive, unique pressure of the Top 14 season hanging over their heads and they can't afford to play pretty and compete on BOTH fronts with equal ambitions and hunger. There's no doubt those clubs if they played the Euro Cup like their Top 14 season, i.e. put out their very best AND give it their all they would surely have different results to show.

As for Racing, last year was a freak show. They've already beaten the English champs this year and let's just watch and see what they do from now on then.

Teams like Castres, Racing and Montpellier are like the Ospreys and Glasgow of the PRO12. They only do well because they only realistically can win domestically and because best teams wear themselves out in the final stages of the European cup. As many players of have said it's the closest thing to international rugby.
 
definitely the funniest moment in the Cardiff Blues vs London Irish match and probably the funniest moment in the challenge cup is Geoff Cross try today, out off anyone to score a try like that i didn't expect that from Geoff Cross, why couldn't he do that for Scotland ? :p

anyway i can see Edinburgh losing tomorrow but if we do lose to London Welsh then that would show that Edinburgh really need to fix something maybe a new coach ?
 
Teams like Castres, Racing and Montpellier are like the Ospreys and Glasgow of the PRO12. They only do well because they only realistically can win domestically and because best teams wear themselves out in the final stages of the European cup. As many players of have said it's the closest thing to international rugby.

I don't believe that a second, although it's yet another one of those modern "urban myths" in the Top 14 that's been circulating well these past 2 years.
Teams don't "wear out" that badly that it makes a decisive difference, Toulon, Clermont.. those are high profile clubs with enormous depth and a brilliant rotation system. Whether Castres took Toulon by *surprise* in 2013, probably, although the latter were warned this Castres side was no joke since they'd made it all the way there to the final.
Again, that same Castres side gave Toulon one hell of a run for their money in last year's final and the best fight any team has given Toulon (Munster, Leinster, Saracens...etc...) in any elimination game. It's that same Castres side that went to Clermont in the 1/4F to put the 76-game win streak to sleep forever.
It's that same Castres side that beat the crap out of Paris, beat Toulon, Racing Metro, Toulouse, and tied with Clermont during the regular season. Castres was no joke the last two seasons.

The simple fact of the matter is those clubs don't have the depth for both fronts and the Top 14 has the most strain over its actors than any league in the world, by quite a distance I'd project. What they manage in the Top 14 is LAUDABLE enough, given their tiny budget in comparison to the Clermont, Toulouse or Toulon. They send out their 2nd, even 3rd stringers along with good players to see if they can manage an interesting result, but you've got to question the commitment in most of those, especially when they've lost on opening weekend as they always do, and I see names on that sheet I literally *never* do during the regular Top 14 season, i.e. what actually counts for them.
So, nope. It's not like you put it. As for Montpellier it's a disaster overall not just Euro level right now. They've like a 4-game losing streak domestically. Their coach, the hopeful joyous young Fabien Galthié, has apparently resigned. They're in a full-scale crisis, just like Racing last year. But both most definitely can "compete". In fact watch Racing this season, Montypellier will have to wait a little longer.
 
i think after this we'll be saying bye to Solomons this is just pathetic
 
Another MOTM for Kvesic.

Him and Evans are a cut above everyone else at Glos.
 
Another MOTM for Kvesic.

Him and Evans are a cut above everyone else at Glos.
No doubt, two weeks in a row too.

Kvesic is maturing very nicely this year. It's getting to the point where if Gloucester turn over a ball, you expect it to be Kvesic to be the one that did it. And most of the time it is. Thought he was a little too prone to giving away a penalty last year. This season, it's been virtually wiped out of his game. Have to wonder whether Laurie Fisher is working his magic with him. Exciting as a Glos and England fan.

Curious to see what Fisher will do with Morgan coming back into the fold and Evans playing so well. Evans at 6?

Thought that Savage, Lutui and Laidlaw were decent too tbf.

Twelvetrees not improving. It's becoming quite concerning.
 
How did Steve McColl play, heard he got a try that's 2 in a row for him, do you think he deserves to be capped for Scotland ?

Relived that Edinburgh started to play better to get back in the lead but Solomons still has a-lot off work to do.

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Question to Glos. fans, how do you feel about Greig Laidlaw as captain ?
 
Anyone know of any highlights for the Connacht-Bayonne game?

Edit. Found it.
 
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