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gingergenius
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music, crowds, lager, marijuana, rice and peas, goat curry... = atmosphere. anyone else come down to london for the world's second largest street carnival?
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Laetca
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There's a street carnival in the middle of Summer? So the festivities no longer have anything to do with lent, or religion?
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Olyy
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Never been myself, but i know people that have and they said it was incredible, i really want to go sometime in the future,
Glad to see it didn't turn out like the end of last years...
Glad to see it didn't turn out like the end of last years...
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gingergenius
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Laetca @ Sep 1 2009, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
No. In the UK, the last weekend in August is a Bank Holiday - in other words, no one goes to work on Monday. Carnival takes place on Sunday and Monday.
In the 1950s when immigrants were arriving from across the empire to London, there were numerous race riots. Notting Hill, an area of London with a large community from T & T (Trinidad & Tobago, home of carnivals, calypso and soca music) had already been holding festivals in halls for a few years. By the 60s, someone suggested they held a street carnival to show togetherness and to celebrate the T&T community in London.
This then graduated to an event for the entire Caribbean diaspora in London, and in the last 15 years or so has become a big event for anyone, regardless of where you come from... although the parades, soundsystems, food and drink stalls etc. are all Caribbean.
It's kind of like a big soca/ calypso/ reggae/ ska/ dancehall/ jungle/ dnb/ hiphop music and dance festival, except taking place in the streets rather than in fields.
No. In the UK, the last weekend in August is a Bank Holiday - in other words, no one goes to work on Monday. Carnival takes place on Sunday and Monday.
In the 1950s when immigrants were arriving from across the empire to London, there were numerous race riots. Notting Hill, an area of London with a large community from T & T (Trinidad & Tobago, home of carnivals, calypso and soca music) had already been holding festivals in halls for a few years. By the 60s, someone suggested they held a street carnival to show togetherness and to celebrate the T&T community in London.
This then graduated to an event for the entire Caribbean diaspora in London, and in the last 15 years or so has become a big event for anyone, regardless of where you come from... although the parades, soundsystems, food and drink stalls etc. are all Caribbean.
It's kind of like a big soca/ calypso/ reggae/ ska/ dancehall/ jungle/ dnb/ hiphop music and dance festival, except taking place in the streets rather than in fields.
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gingergenius
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bristol-iain
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Somewhere I'd love to go at some point. Went to one in Barbados in '04 and it was amazing.
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Laetca
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I know what Carnival is ginger and I'm not surprised at the fact there are Carnival festivities outside of South America, what puzzles me is the date XD
Caribbean Diaspora? Now I'm just confused.
Caribbean Diaspora? Now I'm just confused.
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gingergenius
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Laetca @ Sep 1 2009, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
disapora is like a group of connected people spread over a wide area who often don't have a specific homeland. So you could talk about the Jewish diaspora, meaning every Jewish person spread around the world, whether they come from Eastern Europe or Israel or wherever.
disapora is like a group of connected people spread over a wide area who often don't have a specific homeland. So you could talk about the Jewish diaspora, meaning every Jewish person spread around the world, whether they come from Eastern Europe or Israel or wherever.
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alexrugby
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gingergenius @ Sep 1 2009, 04:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
ehhh could be great to come but.........
ehhh could be great to come but.........
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DonBilly
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Why is it called carnival rather than festival? Carnivals are supposed to take place between epiphany and lent in most of the places.
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gingergenius
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DonBilly @ Sep 4 2009, 05:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
That's the Catholic carnival. Ours is a caribbean carnival, which has no religion linked to it.
That's the Catholic carnival. Ours is a caribbean carnival, which has no religion linked to it.
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DonBilly
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gingergenius @ Sep 4 2009, 10:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
That's the Catholic carnival. Ours is a caribbean carnival, which has no religion linked to it.
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Really? I've gone several times to the West Indies and their Carnivals fell in the same period as in Europe and South America.
Carnivals by the way are not especially Catholic, they are rather pagan traditions surviving in Christian regions. In Germany you find carnivals in both protestant and catholic areas.
That's the Catholic carnival. Ours is a caribbean carnival, which has no religion linked to it.
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Really? I've gone several times to the West Indies and their Carnivals fell in the same period as in Europe and South America.
Carnivals by the way are not especially Catholic, they are rather pagan traditions surviving in Christian regions. In Germany you find carnivals in both protestant and catholic areas.
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Laetca
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Christmas and Easter were originally Pagan traditions surviving in different forms too too for that matter. I doubt there's any religion that is 100% original. By religion I mean traditional ones, not one that says we're really aliens, we just have to pay a lot of money to find out and control that alien part of us. Just to give an example.
I thought the word 'diaspora' was only for Jewish people, didn't know it could be used for other peoples as well, learnt something new today
I thought the word 'diaspora' was only for Jewish people, didn't know it could be used for other peoples as well, learnt something new today
