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1. ?
2. ?
3. ?
4. ?
5. Chris Jack
6. Jerry Collins
7. Richie McCaw
8. Rodney So'oialo
9. ?
10. Andrew Mehrtons
11. Jonah Lomu
12. Dan Carter
13. Tana Umaga
14. Joesevata Rokocoko?
15. Christian Cullen

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17. ?
18. ?
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22. ?
 
Jack, Rocokoco, Carter, So'oialo don't even come close to making the grade. Jerry Collins is very doubtful, maybe cracks the 22 if you want him as an impact player off the bench. Merhts is 50/50 many would spring for Grant Fox and eventually Carter as well, McCaw is in a very debatable category with Josh Kronfeld and Michael Jones on an equal or above talent level. Cullen is your one lock for sure garuntee to make every list, Lomu will make most as would Umaga. But do you select Umaga as a wing or center? What about Jeff Wilson then? And John Kirwan? This could certainly be a bit of an interesting thread or it could be completely dull.
 
Michael Jones, Sean Fitzpatrick, Zinzan Brooke, stu wilson, buck shelford, kees mews

i think there are a lot better allblack players from the past than in the current squad.

and you have to throw carlos spencer in there for his "flair" :p
 
1. ?
2. ?
3. ?
4. ?
5. Chris Jack
6. Jerry Collins
7. Richie McCaw
8. Rodney So'oialo
9. ?
10. Andrew Mehrtons
11. Jonah Lomu
12. Dan Carter
13. Tana Umaga
14. Joesevata Rokocoko?
15. Christian Cullen

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17. ?
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Jesus boy what are you smoking? Have you seen any Rugby games pre 2000?

This would be my best 15 made up only of players I have seen play.

1. Olo Brown
2. Sean Fitzpatrick ©
3. Carl Hayman
4. Chris Jack
5. Ian Jones
6. Michael Jones (McCaw is the better 7, Jones is still a good 6)
7. Richie McCaw
8. Buck Shelford (VC)

9. Graeme Bachop
10. Dan Carter (I've been thinking about this for a while and no one in my mind touches him)
11. Jonah Lomu
12. Frank Bunce (Umaga the better 13, have to fit Bunce somewhere)
13. Tana Umaga
14. Jeff Wilson
15. Christian Cullen
 
1) Meeuws/Brown/Woodcock
2) Fitz
3) Hayman
4) Meads
5) Jack
6) Collins
7) Jones
8) Zinzan/Shelford

9) Bachop/Marshall
10) Spencer
11) Lomu
12) Bunce
13) Umaga
14) Wilson
15) Cullen
 
1) Meeuws
2) Fitzpatrick
3) Hayman
4) Chris Jack
5) Ian Jones
6) Josh Kronfeld
7) Richie McCaw
8) Zinzan Brooke

9) Juatin Marshall
10) Andrew Merthens
11) Jonah Lomu
12) Lee Stensnes
13) Tana Umaga
14) Jeff Wilson
15) Christian Cullen
 
12) Lee Stensnes
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LOLz

..ahem*

1 W.Whinery/K.Meeuws (try scoring machine!)
2 S.Fitzy
3 C.Hayman
4 I.Jones
5 C.Meads
6 I.Kirkpatrick
7 R.McCaw/M.Jones/Waka Nathan? lol
8 Z.Brooke/B.Shelford
9 J.Marshall/G.Bachop
10 Mehrts/Carter/Fox
11 LOMU!
12 F.Bunce
13 T.Umaga
14 J.Wilson/J.Kirwan
15 C.Cullen/G.Nepia

Its very tough especially in some positions because you cant really compare players from different eras. :wall:
 
Lol wtf 12.Lee Stensness I hope your kidding.

1.R.loe
2.Fitzy
3.S.McDowell
4.G.Whetton
5.M.Pierce
6.Z.Brooke
7.M.Jones
8.B.Shelford
9.D.Kirk
10.G.Fox
11.T.Wright
12.C.Green
13.J.Stanley
14.J.Kirwan
15.J.Gallagher

All of these fullaz because they won the 1st and our 1 and only RWC. :D
 
Meads has a great reputation as a player and I believe everyone (the older folk, who have seen him play) when they say how great he was. Too bad he's an outspoken twat. I'm sick hearing how things were "different" in his days and players were "harder and more manly". :rolleyes:

f*** off Collin, no one cares.

Oh yeah and you heard what he said about Collins after he ****** on the field right? Something like "Jerry should be ashamed of himself, players back in my day had much bigger packages". Not in those words, but that's what he more or less meant.
 
Lol wtf 12.Lee Stensness I hope your kidding.[/b]

I met him, and he was awesome. He did have moments of brilliance. :( But if you all wanna be mean, then Frank Bunce. PFT.
 
Lol wtf 12.Lee Stensness I hope your kidding.

1.R.loe
2.Fitzy
3.S.McDowell
4.G.Whetton
5.M.Pierce
6.Z.Brooke
7.M.Jones
8.B.Shelford
9.D.Kirk
10.G.Fox
11.T.Wright
12.C.Green
13.J.Stanley
14.J.Kirwan
15.J.Gallagher

All of these fullaz because they won the 1st and our 1 and only RWC. :D
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well it was Taylor at 12, Green at 11, Alan Whetton at 6, and Drake at 1.

still, out of that team I'd have Fitzy, McDowell, Jones, Shelford, Kirwan, and Gallagher, though Gallagher would probably be shaded by Cullen. And he wasn't really a Kiwi.
 
Best ever NZ 15:

1.O.Brown
2.S.Fitzpatrick ©
3.C.Hayman
4.C.Jack
5.R.Brooke
6.J.Collins
7.R.McCaw
8.Z.Brooke
9.J.Marshall
10.A.Merhtens
11.J.Lomu
12.T.Umaga
13.F.Bunce
14.J.Rokocoko
15.C.Cullen
 
1.C. Dowd
2.S.Fitzpatrick ©
3.C.Hayman
4.C.Jack
5.R.Brooke
6.M.Jones
7.R.McCaw
8.Z.Brooke
9.G.Bachop
10.D.Carter
11.T.Umaga
12.W.Little
13.F.Bunce
14.J Wilson
15.C.Cullen

16 O.Brown
17 A. Oliver
18 I Jones
19 T Randell
20 J. Marshall
21 A Mehrtens
22 J Lomu
 
I cant figure out how to quote the guy who picked carlos spencer for a Fly-Half, but what a typical blues fan! No disrespect, carlos is a very creative playmaker but Carter is clearly the better overall player. I would have him at No 10.
 
1. Craig Dowd
2. Sean fitzpatrick
3. Kees Meauws
4. Ian Jones
5. Chris Jack
6. Jerry Collins
7. Richie McCaw
8. Zinzan Brooke
9. Justin Marshall
10. Dan Carter
11. Jonah Lomu
12. Walter Little
13. Tana Umaga
14. John Kirwin
15. Christian Cullen

16. Tony Woodcock
17. Anton Oliver
18. Colin Meads
19. Josh Kronfeld
20. Graeme Bachop
21. Andrew Merhtens
22. Jeff Wilson
 
1.C.Dowd
2.S.Fitzpatrick ©
3.C.Hayman
4.C.Jack
5.I.Jones
6.J.Collins
7.R.McCaw
8.Z.Brooke
9.J.Marshall
10.A.Merhtens
11.J.Lomu
12.T.Umaga
13.F.Bunce
14.J.Rokocoko
15.C.Cullen

16.A.Oliver
17.K.Meeuws
18.R.Brooke
19.J.Kronfeld
20.D.Kirk
21.D.Carter
22.D.Howlett
 
1. Jonah Lomu
2. Jonah Lomu
3. Jonah Lomu
4. Jonah Lomu
5. Jonah Lomu
6. Jonah Lomu
7. Jonah Lomu
8. Jonah Lomu

9. Jonah Lomu
10. Jonah Lomu
11. Jonah Lomu
12. Jonah Lomu
13. Jonah Lomu
14. Jonah Lomu
15. Christian Cullem

:p
 
15. Christian Cullen
14. John Kirwan
13. Tana Umaga
12. Dan Carter
11. Jonah Lomu
10. Andrew Mehrtens
9. Justin Marshall
8. Sir Brian Lochore
7. Richie McCaw
6. Michael Jones
5. Colin Meads
4. Robin Brooke
3. Carl Hayman
2. Sean Fitzpatrick ©
1. Kees Meeuws
 
1. Jonah Lomu
2. Jonah Lomu
3. Jonah Lomu
4. Jonah Lomu
5. Jonah Lomu
6. Jonah Lomu
7. Jonah Lomu
8. Jonah Lomu

9. Jonah Lomu
10. Jonah Lomu
11. Jonah Lomu
12. Jonah Lomu
13. Jonah Lomu
14. Jonah Lomu
15. Christian Cullem

:p [/b]

Aw Christian Cullen will be scoring all the tries then lol
 

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