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<blockquote data-quote="William18" data-source="post: 532417" data-attributes="member: 38439"><p>What I find funny is that other countries (especially Northern Hemisphere) used to have a go at us for stealing talent from the islands. Now that they do it more than us, you don't hear a peep out of them. In fact, New Zealand is the most friendly countries to the Pacific islands. Most of their players come through our system and we even campaigned to allow former AB's to play for them. We certainly aren't morally superior but we do have superior talent.</p><p></p><p>And Hansen has been taken completely out of order.<strong> He did not mention international rugby at all</strong>. He was talking about SUPER RUGBY. He is most likely referring to the Rebels. Australia got a 5th team because for one it was beveled as being fair but also to develop their own players. How is signing up Cipriani and Woodward developing your own? </p><p></p><p>I don't think Harris is an Australian. If he was good enough he would play for the All Blacks. That is the problem. Every All Blacks player has always wanted to play for us, even if they were Australian or whatever. Australia is Harris' second choice. Sivivatu should have played for Fiji but he could pay for either country and chose New Zealand. I think this is essential as is players are playing for their first choice they will be most passionate. Let me ask you this, if Australia just takes players who are not good enough to make Super Rugby in New Zealand and puts them in their national team, how will they ever beat us? Logic tells you, The New Zealand discards will not defeat the New Zealand All Blacks. Obviously it isn't that bad in Australia as they only have one or two. Honestly though Harris was average on the weekend. He did okay but he will never do more than that. You think we're jealous? Australia can have him. The Blues could probably do with him next season but every other franchise has at least one (in some cases two) better first fives than him. The point is the fact that someone like Harris even made it to play for Australia shows the massive weaknesses in their rugby development system. Why do they have to get players like Harris? Where are there own players? If it doesn't concern Australian posters here, then so be it. If we ever had to get a player who couldn't make an Australian super rugby team to play for the All Blacks then we should stop using <em>that</em> famous name because the players wouldn't be up to it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="William18, post: 532417, member: 38439"] What I find funny is that other countries (especially Northern Hemisphere) used to have a go at us for stealing talent from the islands. Now that they do it more than us, you don't hear a peep out of them. In fact, New Zealand is the most friendly countries to the Pacific islands. Most of their players come through our system and we even campaigned to allow former AB's to play for them. We certainly aren't morally superior but we do have superior talent. And Hansen has been taken completely out of order.[B] He did not mention international rugby at all[/B]. He was talking about SUPER RUGBY. He is most likely referring to the Rebels. Australia got a 5th team because for one it was beveled as being fair but also to develop their own players. How is signing up Cipriani and Woodward developing your own? I don't think Harris is an Australian. If he was good enough he would play for the All Blacks. That is the problem. Every All Blacks player has always wanted to play for us, even if they were Australian or whatever. Australia is Harris' second choice. Sivivatu should have played for Fiji but he could pay for either country and chose New Zealand. I think this is essential as is players are playing for their first choice they will be most passionate. Let me ask you this, if Australia just takes players who are not good enough to make Super Rugby in New Zealand and puts them in their national team, how will they ever beat us? Logic tells you, The New Zealand discards will not defeat the New Zealand All Blacks. Obviously it isn't that bad in Australia as they only have one or two. Honestly though Harris was average on the weekend. He did okay but he will never do more than that. You think we're jealous? Australia can have him. The Blues could probably do with him next season but every other franchise has at least one (in some cases two) better first fives than him. The point is the fact that someone like Harris even made it to play for Australia shows the massive weaknesses in their rugby development system. Why do they have to get players like Harris? Where are there own players? If it doesn't concern Australian posters here, then so be it. If we ever had to get a player who couldn't make an Australian super rugby team to play for the All Blacks then we should stop using [I]that[/I] famous name because the players wouldn't be up to it. [/QUOTE]
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