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Are South Africa Missing out on players with huge potential ?
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<blockquote data-quote="smartcooky" data-source="post: 734077" data-attributes="member: 20605"><p>Playing age group (i.e. U20) doesn't capture eligibility unless</p><p></p><p>[a] That country's National Union has nominated their U20 team as their <em>"next senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Team" </em>under WR Regulation 8.5</p><p></p><p>AND</p><p></p><p><strong> That country's U20 team plays against the U20 team of another country that has also nominated their U20 team as their <em>"next senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Team"</em>.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Only three National Unions have nominated their U20 teams as theirnext senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Team; South Africa, Wales and France, so, U20 matches between those three countries are the only age-group matches that capture eligibility. A couple of years ago there was a player who wanted to play for Scotland (Steven Shingler IIRC), but he didn't realise his eligibility was captured for Wales when he played for Wales U20 v France U20</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>-----</strong></p><p><strong>FYI</strong></p><p><strong>[TEXTAREA]Regulation 8.5. </strong></p><p><strong>When is a Player deemed to have played for the senior or next senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Team of a Union or a Union's senior National Representative Sevens Team? As a result of the one Union only rule, in particular, it is essential that Players and Unions understand the situations in which Players will be deemed to have played for the senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Team or the next senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Team of a Union or a Union's senior National Representative Sevens Team. These situations are set out in Regulations 8.3 and 8.4. Players and Unions shall, at all times, have regard to the full terms of Regulations 8.3 and 8.4, however, by way of a summary only, the situations set out below are covered:</strong></p><p> <strong></strong></p><p><strong>Fifteen-a-side</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>(a) Players who participate in International Matches for the senior National Representative Team or the next senior National Representative Team of a Union against the senior or next senior National Representative Team of another Union.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>(b) Players selected to represent a Union's senior Touring Squad who participate in any Match played by members of that Union's senior Touring Squad during an International Tour provided such International Tour includes an International Match(es) approved by the IRB.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>(c) Players who participate in a Match for the senior or next senior National Representative Team of a Union against a team made up of Players from a Union's senior Touring Squad during an International Tour which includes International Match(es) approved by the IRB.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>(d) Players, representing a Union's next senior Touring Squad who participate in a Match on an International Tour approved by the IRB against the senior National Representative Team or the next senior National Representative Team or the next senior National Representative Team of another Union.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>(e) Players who play for the senior or next senior National Representative Team of a Union against a team selected from a Union's next senior Touring Squad when such Match is played on an International Tour approved by the IRB.[/TEXTAREA]</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>More FYI</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Nominated next senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Teams as of 2012 </strong></p><p><strong>* no other Unions have nominated a next senior fifteen-a-side team</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Argentina: Argentina A</strong></p><p><strong>Australia: Australian Barbarians</strong></p><p><strong>Canada: Canada A</strong></p><p><strong>England: Englands Saxons</strong></p><p><strong>Fiji: Fiji Warriors</strong></p><p><strong>France: <span style="color: #ff0000">France U20</span></strong></p><p><strong>Ireland: Irish Wolfhounds</strong></p><p><strong>Italy: Italia Emergenti</strong></p><p><strong>Japan: Japan A</strong></p><p><strong>New Zealand: Junior All Blacks (New Zealand A)</strong></p><p><strong>Romania: Romania A</strong></p><p><strong>Samoa: Samoa A</strong></p><p><strong>Scotland: Scotland A</strong></p><p><strong>South Africa: <span style="color: #ff0000">South Africa U20</span></strong></p><p><strong>Tonga: Tonga A</strong></p><p><strong>USA: USA Select</strong></p><p><strong>Wales: <span style="color: #ff0000">Wales U20</span></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smartcooky, post: 734077, member: 20605"] Playing age group (i.e. U20) doesn't capture eligibility unless [a] That country's National Union has nominated their U20 team as their [I]"next senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Team" [/I]under WR Regulation 8.5 AND [b] That country's U20 team plays against the U20 team of another country that has also nominated their U20 team as their [I]"next senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Team"[/I]. Only three National Unions have nominated their U20 teams as theirnext senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Team; South Africa, Wales and France, so, U20 matches between those three countries are the only age-group matches that capture eligibility. A couple of years ago there was a player who wanted to play for Scotland (Steven Shingler IIRC), but he didn't realise his eligibility was captured for Wales when he played for Wales U20 v France U20 ----- FYI [TEXTAREA]Regulation 8.5. When is a Player deemed to have played for the senior or next senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Team of a Union or a Union’s senior National Representative Sevens Team? As a result of the one Union only rule, in particular, it is essential that Players and Unions understand the situations in which Players will be deemed to have played for the senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Team or the next senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Team of a Union or a Union’s senior National Representative Sevens Team. These situations are set out in Regulations 8.3 and 8.4. Players and Unions shall, at all times, have regard to the full terms of Regulations 8.3 and 8.4, however, by way of a summary only, the situations set out below are covered: Fifteen-a-side (a) Players who participate in International Matches for the senior National Representative Team or the next senior National Representative Team of a Union against the senior or next senior National Representative Team of another Union. (b) Players selected to represent a Union’s senior Touring Squad who participate in any Match played by members of that Union’s senior Touring Squad during an International Tour provided such International Tour includes an International Match(es) approved by the IRB. (c) Players who participate in a Match for the senior or next senior National Representative Team of a Union against a team made up of Players from a Union’s senior Touring Squad during an International Tour which includes International Match(es) approved by the IRB. (d) Players, representing a Union’s next senior Touring Squad who participate in a Match on an International Tour approved by the IRB against the senior National Representative Team or the next senior National Representative Team or the next senior National Representative Team of another Union. (e) Players who play for the senior or next senior National Representative Team of a Union against a team selected from a Union’s next senior Touring Squad when such Match is played on an International Tour approved by the IRB.[/TEXTAREA] More FYI Nominated next senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Teams as of 2012 * no other Unions have nominated a next senior fifteen-a-side team Argentina: Argentina A Australia: Australian Barbarians Canada: Canada A England: Englands Saxons Fiji: Fiji Warriors France: [COLOR=#ff0000]France U20[/COLOR] Ireland: Irish Wolfhounds Italy: Italia Emergenti Japan: Japan A New Zealand: Junior All Blacks (New Zealand A) Romania: Romania A Samoa: Samoa A Scotland: Scotland A South Africa: [COLOR=#ff0000]South Africa U20[/COLOR] Tonga: Tonga A USA: USA Select Wales: [COLOR=#ff0000]Wales U20[/COLOR][/b] [/QUOTE]
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