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<blockquote data-quote="dirty harry" data-source="post: 1223182" data-attributes="member: 86934"><p>I agree with all of this, although the stats around women being attacked in public massively disprove this fear, but I also recognise fear isn't always based on rationality, and can massively empathise the situation in which a small female has found themselves somewhere dark and sketchy alone at night. What I would say is that professionals used to teach risk assessment, and analysis, and taking responsibility for your own safety, however this has been replaced with teaching all men not to do bad things (again it's politically convenient).</p><p></p><p>Where I would add, is that funding and culture all talk about violence against women and girls continuously. There's a whole home affairs committee looking to redirect more money toward this issue, there are female only spaces, gender equality programmes, and a garage of places they can go for help. I'm not playing down girls issues, I actually think this is all politically convenient and they ignore some of the biggest dangers for girls, especially within the care system (where coercion, manipulation and sexual abuse is rife and hidden) and how care experienced girls are treated by the police, it's disgraceful.</p><p></p><p>I also don't think there really is a growing divide, not in the inter personal anyway. On social media, in the news and according to politicians yes, it seems the cavern is growing, but on the day to day people need people. </p><p></p><p>Scaring for clicks, votes or views has always been the way, as is control, and using the notions of race, gender, religion etc is the easiest way to keep us all squabbling amongst each other arguing about nothing.</p><p></p><p>My concern is a whole generation of boys, failed by the education system, failed by poverty, failed by the police force, but mostly failed by their own government. There is not one stat where boys are achieving any success currently. That's my fear, the entire western world is seemingly celebrating woman and girls while demonising boys, through policy, media, and criminilisation. </p><p></p><p>I'll leave you with 1 scary stat, the criminalisation of young boys in the uk is so bad, currently 28% of the entire country has a criminal record, and 48% of boys between 18-24 have had run ins with the police. This was getting so bad, the ONS released a statement in 2019 bragging about how crime reduction was working, and that the rate of young offenders in court had dropped 78% between 2007 and 2018. Seems amazing, until you realised they changed the metrics for court appearance, and only included first timers instead of multiple offenders. The true stat is probably that court appearances doubled.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dirty harry, post: 1223182, member: 86934"] I agree with all of this, although the stats around women being attacked in public massively disprove this fear, but I also recognise fear isn't always based on rationality, and can massively empathise the situation in which a small female has found themselves somewhere dark and sketchy alone at night. What I would say is that professionals used to teach risk assessment, and analysis, and taking responsibility for your own safety, however this has been replaced with teaching all men not to do bad things (again it's politically convenient). Where I would add, is that funding and culture all talk about violence against women and girls continuously. There's a whole home affairs committee looking to redirect more money toward this issue, there are female only spaces, gender equality programmes, and a garage of places they can go for help. I'm not playing down girls issues, I actually think this is all politically convenient and they ignore some of the biggest dangers for girls, especially within the care system (where coercion, manipulation and sexual abuse is rife and hidden) and how care experienced girls are treated by the police, it's disgraceful. I also don't think there really is a growing divide, not in the inter personal anyway. On social media, in the news and according to politicians yes, it seems the cavern is growing, but on the day to day people need people. Scaring for clicks, votes or views has always been the way, as is control, and using the notions of race, gender, religion etc is the easiest way to keep us all squabbling amongst each other arguing about nothing. My concern is a whole generation of boys, failed by the education system, failed by poverty, failed by the police force, but mostly failed by their own government. There is not one stat where boys are achieving any success currently. That's my fear, the entire western world is seemingly celebrating woman and girls while demonising boys, through policy, media, and criminilisation. I'll leave you with 1 scary stat, the criminalisation of young boys in the uk is so bad, currently 28% of the entire country has a criminal record, and 48% of boys between 18-24 have had run ins with the police. This was getting so bad, the ONS released a statement in 2019 bragging about how crime reduction was working, and that the rate of young offenders in court had dropped 78% between 2007 and 2018. Seems amazing, until you realised they changed the metrics for court appearance, and only included first timers instead of multiple offenders. The true stat is probably that court appearances doubled. [/QUOTE]
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