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<blockquote data-quote="Which Tyler" data-source="post: 1182500" data-attributes="member: 73592"><p>Well, yes - by definition.</p><p>There were trans athletes before there was any research on benefits or hindrances to trans athletes. It's kinda hard to do it the other way around.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Not per se, no. However it IS used as a dog whistle (not accusing anyone here).</p><p>The awkward question is how, once the dog whistle is known and identified, does one raise the question without looking like you agree with the whistlers? I'll be honest, I've no idea here.</p><p></p><p>One thing I will say though, is raising a question is different from implying or outright stating an answer. This goes double or triple for a stated answer that comes without any context (eg. "I've come to the following conclusion having spent X years coaching sportswomen, of whom Y were transwomen, and in my (n=Y) experience, then conclusion Z" or "IMO X, and <span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><u>here</u></span>'s a wiki page on the subject, and <u><span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)">here</span></u>'s a pubmed article on the subject, and <span style="color: rgb(44, 130, 201)"><u>here</u></span>'s a respectable and respectful blog on the subject by an acknowledged expert")</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Which Tyler, post: 1182500, member: 73592"] Well, yes - by definition. There were trans athletes before there was any research on benefits or hindrances to trans athletes. It's kinda hard to do it the other way around. Not per se, no. However it IS used as a dog whistle (not accusing anyone here). The awkward question is how, once the dog whistle is known and identified, does one raise the question without looking like you agree with the whistlers? I'll be honest, I've no idea here. One thing I will say though, is raising a question is different from implying or outright stating an answer. This goes double or triple for a stated answer that comes without any context (eg. "I've come to the following conclusion having spent X years coaching sportswomen, of whom Y were transwomen, and in my (n=Y) experience, then conclusion Z" or "IMO X, and [COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][U]here[/U][/COLOR]'s a wiki page on the subject, and [U][COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)]here[/COLOR][/U]'s a pubmed article on the subject, and [COLOR=rgb(44, 130, 201)][U]here[/U][/COLOR]'s a respectable and respectful blog on the subject by an acknowledged expert") [/QUOTE]
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