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<blockquote data-quote="Larksea" data-source="post: 419772" data-attributes="member: 43875"><p>jeez! calm down nick <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /> or I'll have to contact a moderator!</p><p></p><p>honestly, I'm not as bad with chiefs players as you believe. I'd defend Boric in the same way as well as other players around that aren't from the chiefs and Sivivatu is out of my good books right now. I think I'd rather see Rokocoko in the AB's. 3-4 years ago people used to give me hell for saying kieran Read should be #8 for the all blacks.</p><p></p><p>I do believe Smith has a weakness against some of the bigger mid fielders around. Examples:</p><p></p><p> In 2008 first test AUS vs NZ the all blacks started Kahui ahead of conrad smith and it was pretty obvious they were worried about Conrad smith marking Mortlock on defense (turned out mortlock pulled out of the test at the last minute hehe). Smith made a couple of blunders in those aussie games. One where he made a weak attempt on Ryan Cross which ended in a try and when the all blacks destroyed Asutralia at eden park the only try aussie scored was when mortlock went straight past conrad smith to score. he also made a couple bad misses against South Africa but they didn't concede trys. One break interestingly was squashed by Kahui who was playing outside smith.</p><p></p><p>I'm honestly a lot happier now Aussie in particular haven't had a mid fielder like mortlock since then to line up against conrad smith. Smith is a good defender, very good but he does have a weakness.</p><p></p><p>On Gear, he is a very good player and when he's on form I'm sure he puts fear in oposition defences. But the reality is he hasn't proved himself against SA or AUSSIE yet which is obviously important and he's shown even at super level he is not strong on defense in some areas. When he is tested I expect to see a lot of kicks go in behind him.</p><p></p><p>Also you make it sound like trys are all that matter. Fact is at test level, and even more importantly in world cups other areas are more important. I think Kahui's main strength for the All Blacks has been his defense and his low error rate, his ability under the high ball and his kicking game. And he's also shown genuine speed. Once dragging off even Habanna to save a try.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Larksea, post: 419772, member: 43875"] jeez! calm down nick :p or I'll have to contact a moderator! honestly, I'm not as bad with chiefs players as you believe. I'd defend Boric in the same way as well as other players around that aren't from the chiefs and Sivivatu is out of my good books right now. I think I'd rather see Rokocoko in the AB's. 3-4 years ago people used to give me hell for saying kieran Read should be #8 for the all blacks. I do believe Smith has a weakness against some of the bigger mid fielders around. Examples: In 2008 first test AUS vs NZ the all blacks started Kahui ahead of conrad smith and it was pretty obvious they were worried about Conrad smith marking Mortlock on defense (turned out mortlock pulled out of the test at the last minute hehe). Smith made a couple of blunders in those aussie games. One where he made a weak attempt on Ryan Cross which ended in a try and when the all blacks destroyed Asutralia at eden park the only try aussie scored was when mortlock went straight past conrad smith to score. he also made a couple bad misses against South Africa but they didn't concede trys. One break interestingly was squashed by Kahui who was playing outside smith. I'm honestly a lot happier now Aussie in particular haven't had a mid fielder like mortlock since then to line up against conrad smith. Smith is a good defender, very good but he does have a weakness. On Gear, he is a very good player and when he's on form I'm sure he puts fear in oposition defences. But the reality is he hasn't proved himself against SA or AUSSIE yet which is obviously important and he's shown even at super level he is not strong on defense in some areas. When he is tested I expect to see a lot of kicks go in behind him. Also you make it sound like trys are all that matter. Fact is at test level, and even more importantly in world cups other areas are more important. I think Kahui's main strength for the All Blacks has been his defense and his low error rate, his ability under the high ball and his kicking game. And he's also shown genuine speed. Once dragging off even Habanna to save a try. [/QUOTE]
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