Aironi and Treviso

[msmith007]

Just wondering how everyone else thinks the new Italian teams will do? I think they'll struggle, maybe get a result against connacht or Newport.

 

[TRF_Cymro]

Just wondering how everyone else thinks the new Italian teams will do? I think they'll struggle, maybe get a result against connacht or Newport.

Not watched much ML recently have you?

 

[MichaelBoard]

They will struggle in there first few years but they wont be getting any results against newport because newport aren't in the Magners League. But if you mean the Dragons then they won't be getting any result from these games other than a loss. Like Cymro said, have you been watching much Magners League recently? Because the Dragons were arguably the most in form team in the Magners League last season and punched well above their weight, they are on the rise and a very good side

 

[TRF_Cymro]

Inform I dunno ... but punching above their weight for sure. With the signings they have made already they are looking good to do the same next year also.

 

[SelimNiai]

Arioni have signed a few very good players. I think they will fare better than Treviso and could surprise many people.

 

[MichaelBoard]

Ok maybe a slight exaggeration them being the most in form side but for large parts of the season they played very well and played some really exciting attacking rugby. They were also a force to be reckoned with at the parade comfortably beating imo a full strength Ospreys side. Most importantly theres a fair few welsh players that make up the side and they always give the young welsh talent a chance. I think they were unfairly overlooked in terms of selection for the new zealand tour albeit the likes of Gavin Thomas and Will Harries are now involved due to injuries.

 

[TRF_Cymro]

I think they were unfairly overlooked in terms of selection for the new zealand tour albeit the likes of Gavin Thomas and Will Harries are now involved due to injuries.

Yep 100% you look at some of those players in the squad Tovey and Wayne Evans for example should be on tour with Wales. You often feel Gatland overlooks the region so hopefully in the coming months the perception might change.

 

[MichaelBoard]

Who have Aironi signed bristol-ian? I wish the italian sides all the best as im part italian myself. Just think it will take some time for them to settle in and establish themselves but they will definitely improve and be competitive i'm sure

 

[TRF_Cymro]

Who have Aironi signed bristol-ian? I wish the italian sides all the best as im part italian myself. Just think it will take some time for them to settle in and establish themselves but they will definitely improve and be competitive i'm sure

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aironi#Confirmed_players

 

[SelimNiai]

Who have Aironi signed bristol-ian? I wish the italian sides all the best as im part italian myself. Just think it will take some time for them to settle in and establish themselves but they will definitely improve and be competitive i'm sure

Just a few :lol:


Fabio Ongaro from Saracens
Matias Aguero from Saracens
Salvatore Perugini from Bayonne
Alberto de Marchi from Overmach Parma
Andrea de Marchi from Rugby Rovigo
George Biagi from Rugby Club I Cavalieri Prato
Marco Bortolami from Gloucester Rugby
Nicola Cattina from Rugby Calvisano
Simone Favaro from Overmach Parma
Gareth Krause from Venezia
Nick Williams from Munster
***o Tebaldi from Gran Parma Rugby
Riccardo Bocchino from Rugby Roma
Ludovic Mercier from Petrarca
Roberto Quartaroli from Overmach Parma
Giovanbattista Venditti from Gran Parma Rugby
Giulio Rubini from Gran Parma Rugby
Kaine Robertson from Viadana Rugby
Julien Laharrague from Montauban
Danwel Demas from Cheetahs
Paolo Buso from Rugby Roma

 

[msmith007]

YeahI have seen some magners league recently, I was just trying to think of any teams that might struggle away from home in Italy. I think that the two Italian teams have some pretty good players but depends whether they can gel as a team.

 

[TRF_Cymro]

YeahI have seen some magners league recently, I was just trying to think of any teams that might struggle away from home in Italy. I think that the two Italian teams have some pretty good players but depends whether they can gel as a team.

Scarlets for me have a load of potential but the coaching staff have not a clue there. I see them pretty much doing the same as they did this season. The Blues if they are not careful could slip up I feel also.

 

[MichaelBoard]

fairplay there are few decent signings amongst them and a fair few stick out. Perugini, Bortalami, Tebaldi, and Robertson in particular. All the best to them, just hope they don't perform too well against the Dragons!

 

[profitius]

They'll struggle to get to mid table in the first few season but will get slowly better. After a few years they'll be about the same level as the Scottish teams I think.

Celtic rugby are hoping that Italian TV get involved more in the long run. That means more money because Italy is mulitple times bigger than Ireland, Scotland and Wales put togethar.

 

[TRF_Cymro]

They'll struggle to get to mid table in the first few season but will get slowly better. After a few years they'll be about the same level as the Scottish teams I think.

Celtic rugby are hoping that Italian TV get involved more in the long run. That means more money because Italy is mulitple times bigger than Ireland, Scotland and Wales put togethar.

Depends on viewer-ship more than the size of a country.

 

[msmith007]

They probably will struggle early on but hopefully this will help the Italian team in the long run.

 

[ORothlain]

I'm excited to see what these teams can do. This is a big, big bonus for Italian Rugby. Not only will it get more players top flight experience but it will give the people in Italy more exposure to our grander version of Football.
They will be hard pressed to get good results against some of the best teams in the northern hemisphere.

 

[danit]

Just a few :lol:

Fabio Ongaro from Saracens
Matias Aguero from Saracens
Salvatore Perugini from Bayonne
Alberto de Marchi from Overmach Parma
Andrea de Marchi from Rugby Rovigo
George Biagi from Rugby Club I Cavalieri Prato
Marco Bortolami from Gloucester Rugby
Nicola Cattina from Rugby Calvisano
Simone Favaro from Overmach Parma
Gareth Krause from Venezia
Nick Williams from Munster
***o Tebaldi from Gran Parma Rugby
Riccardo Bocchino from Rugby Roma
Ludovic Mercier from Petrarca
Roberto Quartaroli from Overmach Parma
Giovanbattista Venditti from Gran Parma Rugby
Giulio Rubini from Gran Parma Rugby
Kaine Robertson from Viadana Rugby
Julien Laharrague from Montauban
Danwel Demas from Cheetahs
Paolo Buso from Rugby Roma

add:
Dylan Des Fountain from Stormers / Western Province
Gabriel Pizarro from Rovigo

 

[danit]

a possible starting XV for Aironi

15 Laharrage*
14 Robertson
13 Quartaroli (M.Pratichetti)
12 Des Fountaine* (Pizarro)
11 Demas*
10 Mercier*
9 Tebaldi (Canavosio)
1 Aguero
2 Ongaro
3 Perugini
4 Del Fava
5 Bortolami (Geldenhuis)
6 Sole (Krause*)
7 Favaro
8 Williams*

a maximum of 5 non Italy elegible players are allowed in the 23, here they are 6*

 

[TRF_Cymro]

I presume there will be youngsters also?