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<blockquote data-quote="wjd23104" data-source="post: 293443"><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Candyman @ Dec 13 2009, 06:57 PM) <a href="http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=426780" target="_blank"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div> And other posts are i hate steve tew or and i quote "hussah! a victory for nz rugby <strong>and a kick in the teeth for the nzru(which is no bad thing)</strong> to which you reply "damn straight" where was your suggestion ? people are posting crap directed against the nzru and this not the only thread. A few good points have been made but often with big holes in them. for example "the salary cap needs to be a lot lower" how about people who think that try and convince the players union (which forced the NZRU to accept the salary cap this high when they made it a 14 team Competition) that the salary cap being dropped is in their interest. I imagine their reps will laugh in your face.</p><p></p><p>And what is this rubbish about John O'Neill dropping the Aus Domestic competition because it wasn't his idea? On planet earth thats clearly not the case. By the way i only brought it up because its a nightmare scenario that could be repeated here if the self interested unions don't get theirs heads out of their arses.</p><p></p><p>Yes Jethro i am some what aware of the ins and outs of this mess and the nzru has been thwarted by self interested groups in many cases in changing the NPC and don't be naive the NZRU did not just decide to change the apparently (in your opinion) perfect NPC. The players union threaten legal action so the salary cap had to be increased. The NZRU wanted 12 teams not 14 then you guessed it, legal action was threatened (something about the criteria for promotion). </p><p></p><p>Yes and your unbelievably stupid suggestion to tell an expansion minded ARU: what do you think about reducing the competition to 12 teams so we can sort out the loss making AirNZCup? if John O'Neill is even able to reply while rolling around the floor laughing it will be a solid NO.</p><p></p><p>Besides that we need the super 14/15 to do well so the NZRU as part of Sanzar has a strong position to get a good broadcast rights deal.</p><p></p><p>One of the big things about dropping 4 teams is paying less players. As for the Canterbury situation there are some factors like having to pay for Carter and Mccaw, Stadium renovations (i assume i'm not sure) admittedly Otago is a concern. This is why there are other criteria, someone has to go it sure isn't going to Canterbury thats for sure.</p><p></p><p>Even with all this some questions have to be asked about how the NZRU hasn't worked out a solution by now, though i'm yet to hear or read of a solution that makes everyone happy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wjd23104, post: 293443"] <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Candyman @ Dec 13 2009, 06:57 PM) [url='index.php?act=findpost&pid=426780']<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div> And other posts are i hate steve tew or and i quote "hussah! a victory for nz rugby [b]and a kick in the teeth for the nzru(which is no bad thing)[/b] to which you reply "damn straight" where was your suggestion ? people are posting crap directed against the nzru and this not the only thread. A few good points have been made but often with big holes in them. for example "the salary cap needs to be a lot lower" how about people who think that try and convince the players union (which forced the NZRU to accept the salary cap this high when they made it a 14 team Competition) that the salary cap being dropped is in their interest. I imagine their reps will laugh in your face. And what is this rubbish about John O'Neill dropping the Aus Domestic competition because it wasn't his idea? On planet earth thats clearly not the case. By the way i only brought it up because its a nightmare scenario that could be repeated here if the self interested unions don't get theirs heads out of their arses. Yes Jethro i am some what aware of the ins and outs of this mess and the nzru has been thwarted by self interested groups in many cases in changing the NPC and don't be naive the NZRU did not just decide to change the apparently (in your opinion) perfect NPC. The players union threaten legal action so the salary cap had to be increased. The NZRU wanted 12 teams not 14 then you guessed it, legal action was threatened (something about the criteria for promotion). Yes and your unbelievably stupid suggestion to tell an expansion minded ARU: what do you think about reducing the competition to 12 teams so we can sort out the loss making AirNZCup? if John O'Neill is even able to reply while rolling around the floor laughing it will be a solid NO. Besides that we need the super 14/15 to do well so the NZRU as part of Sanzar has a strong position to get a good broadcast rights deal. One of the big things about dropping 4 teams is paying less players. As for the Canterbury situation there are some factors like having to pay for Carter and Mccaw, Stadium renovations (i assume i'm not sure) admittedly Otago is a concern. This is why there are other criteria, someone has to go it sure isn't going to Canterbury thats for sure. Even with all this some questions have to be asked about how the NZRU hasn't worked out a solution by now, though i'm yet to hear or read of a solution that makes everyone happy. [/QUOTE]
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