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<blockquote data-quote="William18" data-source="post: 293208"><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jethro @ Dec 13 2009, 02:08 PM) <a href="http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=426758" target="_blank"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div> Um what the hell would you know? It would still be better than the ARU that had to get rid of their competition altogether because it was a financial mess (sound familiar?). Some thing has to be done.</p><p></p><p>Am i the only one who is sick of people claiming most of the country would be alienated by three teams that weren't in the top division just two or three years ago and one (northland) that only gets decent support if the NZRU says its going to drop them, get cut. Honestly the anger would be short lived. look at the Graham Henry saga. Sure some people still hate him but very few have been calling for Deans Lately, i wonder why? </p><p></p><p>Ultimately even if people don't like the NZRU they still like their team and watching rugby (first or second division)</p><p>[/b]</p></blockquote><p></p><p>******** HB have been getting solid humbers to games with no fear of being demoted solely through the ability to match most other ANZC teams on a weekly basis. The ARU cut the ARC competition due to JON not likeing it as it wasn't his brain child. The NZRU have simply sold out kiwi rugby to prop up an ailing situation here in Oz that is seeing the regions switch off the game due to the big city mentality of the various State unions. </p><p></p><p>I note they are now talking about further watering down eligability laws in Oz due to the fact that there is bugger all chance of producing five competitive teams from the ever decreasing ranks of club players. O'Neil quite simply has been a disaster for the game in the country.</p><p></p><p>The NZRU's first and foremost requirement is to promote and build the game in KLiwiland, you do not do that by alienating a quarter of the population. Or do you want to go back to days of teams like HB getting crowds in the range of 800 for games?</p><p></p><p>The NZRU need to give the ANZC a chance, as smartcooky pointed out the first couple of seasons confused the hell out of supporters, this year with a simply round robin, semis, and finals the hinterland crowds are showing up. Yes lets destroy that so we can supply the Oz S15 franchises with players.</p><p>[/b][/quote]</p><p>I don't know much about the ARC but your reasoning sounds like BS to me. Can you expect them to keep a competition going which lost almost 5 million Australian? Where were they going to find the money to pay for it? On the trees out back? The NZRU must help out Australia because Australia brings in massive amounts of revenue to the NZRU. The Bledisloe tests are the biggest games of the year. Super 15 dies, so does the Bledisloe, so does a big chunk of NZRU finances and then there is less money to spread around developing the game here. Should we just ditch super rugby and just ditch Australia?</p><p></p><p>The reason Hawkes Bay is in the first division and doing so well is simple. They have great fans who get behind their team, they produce their own players and are holding on to them now they have their own team. I don't have the crowds for every game of the same but, as I understand, the average crowds only went up a few 100 nation wide. T^he success of this year's competition has been too far exaggerated.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="William18, post: 293208"] <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jethro @ Dec 13 2009, 02:08 PM) [url='index.php?act=findpost&pid=426758']<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div> Um what the hell would you know? It would still be better than the ARU that had to get rid of their competition altogether because it was a financial mess (sound familiar?). Some thing has to be done. Am i the only one who is sick of people claiming most of the country would be alienated by three teams that weren't in the top division just two or three years ago and one (northland) that only gets decent support if the NZRU says its going to drop them, get cut. Honestly the anger would be short lived. look at the Graham Henry saga. Sure some people still hate him but very few have been calling for Deans Lately, i wonder why? Ultimately even if people don't like the NZRU they still like their team and watching rugby (first or second division) [/b][/quote] ******** HB have been getting solid humbers to games with no fear of being demoted solely through the ability to match most other ANZC teams on a weekly basis. The ARU cut the ARC competition due to JON not likeing it as it wasn't his brain child. The NZRU have simply sold out kiwi rugby to prop up an ailing situation here in Oz that is seeing the regions switch off the game due to the big city mentality of the various State unions. I note they are now talking about further watering down eligability laws in Oz due to the fact that there is bugger all chance of producing five competitive teams from the ever decreasing ranks of club players. O'Neil quite simply has been a disaster for the game in the country. The NZRU's first and foremost requirement is to promote and build the game in KLiwiland, you do not do that by alienating a quarter of the population. Or do you want to go back to days of teams like HB getting crowds in the range of 800 for games? The NZRU need to give the ANZC a chance, as smartcooky pointed out the first couple of seasons confused the hell out of supporters, this year with a simply round robin, semis, and finals the hinterland crowds are showing up. Yes lets destroy that so we can supply the Oz S15 franchises with players. [/b][/quote] I don't know much about the ARC but your reasoning sounds like BS to me. Can you expect them to keep a competition going which lost almost 5 million Australian? Where were they going to find the money to pay for it? On the trees out back? The NZRU must help out Australia because Australia brings in massive amounts of revenue to the NZRU. The Bledisloe tests are the biggest games of the year. Super 15 dies, so does the Bledisloe, so does a big chunk of NZRU finances and then there is less money to spread around developing the game here. Should we just ditch super rugby and just ditch Australia? The reason Hawkes Bay is in the first division and doing so well is simple. They have great fans who get behind their team, they produce their own players and are holding on to them now they have their own team. I don't have the crowds for every game of the same but, as I understand, the average crowds only went up a few 100 nation wide. T^he success of this year's competition has been too far exaggerated. [/QUOTE]
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