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<blockquote data-quote="William18" data-source="post: 765148" data-attributes="member: 38439"><p>The problem with a Super Rugby system is that you would have to significantly reduce the amount of imports. If you reduce your talent down to 5 teams then that is only fine if every team has an English first-five. If 2 have a foreign first-five then you only have 3 first five's to pick from. It makes it hard for young players to get a go. Super Rugby works in New Zealand because mediocre Super Rugby players like Tyler Bleyendaal leave. Bleyendaal could probably start at first-five for the Crusaders next season but he isn't a long term option. If he stayed in New Zealand rugby he would just be taking up a sport which should go to a young, up and coming player. Losing those sorts of average players who will never be All Blacks can be a good thing, provided the competition isn't reduced to just All Blacks and young guys. Also, we have hardly any players from other countries who want to come and play in New Zealand because the money is less. Therefore we always have 5 first-fives we can pick from.</p><p></p><p>There are also benefits to how things are in England. Did anyone watch our domestic rugby final? Two old rivals, Auckland and Canterbury went head to head. The two greatest provinces in New Zealand rugby history. We got a crowd of probably less than 10,000. If you go to a franchise system do not expect fans to still turn up to Harlequins or whatever. I can't see how your clubs will survive. We do not have clubs at all in New Zealand rugby; we have provinces and that is the only reason they survive. The whole point of the Auckland province is that it is a representative team of the best players in the Auckland region just as the All Blacks are best players throughout the whole country. Therefore he point of the provinces is to promote rugby in the local area and not to turn a profit. </p><p></p><p>I think Super Rugby does give us a big leg up but there is a lot more to it than that. As it is i don't think the NH teams have actually been very bad at this World Cup. Wales and England were in a tough pool; Ireland had a lot of injuries. The end of year tour in 2014 went really well for you guys. I have never been convinced that a one off tournament every four years is the best indication of the strength of rugby in a country. We could play the World Cup again and England could have won the thing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="William18, post: 765148, member: 38439"] The problem with a Super Rugby system is that you would have to significantly reduce the amount of imports. If you reduce your talent down to 5 teams then that is only fine if every team has an English first-five. If 2 have a foreign first-five then you only have 3 first five's to pick from. It makes it hard for young players to get a go. Super Rugby works in New Zealand because mediocre Super Rugby players like Tyler Bleyendaal leave. Bleyendaal could probably start at first-five for the Crusaders next season but he isn't a long term option. If he stayed in New Zealand rugby he would just be taking up a sport which should go to a young, up and coming player. Losing those sorts of average players who will never be All Blacks can be a good thing, provided the competition isn't reduced to just All Blacks and young guys. Also, we have hardly any players from other countries who want to come and play in New Zealand because the money is less. Therefore we always have 5 first-fives we can pick from. There are also benefits to how things are in England. Did anyone watch our domestic rugby final? Two old rivals, Auckland and Canterbury went head to head. The two greatest provinces in New Zealand rugby history. We got a crowd of probably less than 10,000. If you go to a franchise system do not expect fans to still turn up to Harlequins or whatever. I can't see how your clubs will survive. We do not have clubs at all in New Zealand rugby; we have provinces and that is the only reason they survive. The whole point of the Auckland province is that it is a representative team of the best players in the Auckland region just as the All Blacks are best players throughout the whole country. Therefore he point of the provinces is to promote rugby in the local area and not to turn a profit. I think Super Rugby does give us a big leg up but there is a lot more to it than that. As it is i don't think the NH teams have actually been very bad at this World Cup. Wales and England were in a tough pool; Ireland had a lot of injuries. The end of year tour in 2014 went really well for you guys. I have never been convinced that a one off tournament every four years is the best indication of the strength of rugby in a country. We could play the World Cup again and England could have won the thing. [/QUOTE]
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