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<blockquote data-quote="Which Tyler" data-source="post: 1222405" data-attributes="member: 73592">Aren&#039;t ex-presdients, (and advisors, secretaries of state etc) supposed to be seen as elder statesmen, available as sounding boards, and advisors, the only people who really know what it&#039;s like in the hot seat, and for advisors, experts in their previous experts?Certainly Carter, Bush, Clinton, Bush &amp; Obama (just from presidents) filled those roles (not sure Reagan had the capacity when he left office). I&#039;m pretty sure it goes back significantly further than that though. But it&#039;s a &quot;norm&quot;, an expectation that presidents do their honest best for the country, even if they disagree on what is best.In which case, they need clearance.Trump stole confidential documents to feed his ego (and bank account) and no way could have been trusted to keep a clearance level.He&#039;s removing other peoples&#039; clearances because he&#039;s a petty child, who doesn&#039;t respect anyone who isn&#039;t a tyrant.Removing clearance may become the new norm - I kinda hope not, for the reasons above. But if the massive polarisation of the last decade continues, it probably will.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Which Tyler, post: 1222405, member: 73592"] Aren't ex-presdients, (and advisors, secretaries of state etc) supposed to be seen as elder statesmen, available as sounding boards, and advisors, the only people who really know what it's like in the hot seat, and for advisors, experts in their previous experts? Certainly Carter, Bush, Clinton, Bush & Obama (just from presidents) filled those roles (not sure Reagan had the capacity when he left office). I'm pretty sure it goes back significantly further than that though. But it's a "norm", an expectation that presidents do their honest best for the country, even if they disagree on what is best. In which case, they need clearance. Trump stole confidential documents to feed his ego (and bank account) and no way could have been trusted to keep a clearance level. He's removing other peoples' clearances because he's a petty child, who doesn't respect anyone who isn't a tyrant. Removing clearance may become the new norm - I kinda hope not, for the reasons above. But if the massive polarisation of the last decade continues, it probably will. [/QUOTE]

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