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<blockquote data-quote="ncurd" data-source="post: 1114556" data-attributes="member: 72205">Several reasons,One raw numbers are useless, population increases and turnout have bearing its not worth looking at on an election by election comparison.Many traditional working class seats were lost.He didn&#039;t get elected twice. The second time he got absolutely walloped in Labour&#039;s worst results in decades/ever depending on how you look at it.I think the main elephant in the room in bigging up the electoral success of 2017 is the complete disaster of May&#039;s campaign. Her manifesto was universally hated like really reviled even many Tory voting types.The was to look at it is this if someone does a good as could possibly be imagined (2017) and fails they are unelectable.Good turnout is one thing but if you push even more people to vote Tory out of fear (they&#039;re idiots but that is what it was) your still not winning.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ncurd, post: 1114556, member: 72205"] Several reasons, One raw numbers are useless, population increases and turnout have bearing its not worth looking at on an election by election comparison. Many traditional working class seats were lost. He didn't get elected twice. The second time he got absolutely walloped in Labour's worst results in decades/ever depending on how you look at it. I think the main elephant in the room in bigging up the electoral success of 2017 is the complete disaster of May's campaign. Her manifesto was universally hated like really reviled even many Tory voting types. The was to look at it is this if someone does a good as could possibly be imagined (2017) and fails they are unelectable. Good turnout is one thing but if you push even more people to vote Tory out of fear (they're idiots but that is what it was) your still not winning. [/QUOTE]

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