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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Saintjay" data-source="post: 1114537" data-attributes="member: 55969">I do wonder if Corbyn era Labour has to take some responsibility for the mess we are in. The Labour NEC and membership put Labour in a position that made it unelectable to the average person. Labour went from being the party of the working classes. To mainly being supported in larger cities and university towns. Losing Scotland is also a massive problem that needs to be addressed by Labour. What did Labour do to cause such a massive defeat at the last GE. Also what drives people to vote Conservative governments into power considerably more than they do Labour. As much as people like to think they are community minded, think of others. I can't help people feel at the ballot box they vote on who they feel will benefit themselves and family first, community, others second. Most people aren't left or right in my view but probably sit somewhere in the middle.To get back lost votes Labour needs to win Brexit voting historically working class seats. Whilst trying to retain the Brexit voting student towns and larger cities. A number of people I know who voted Brexit are are sick of being labelled racists, thick, stupid. That they should now apologise because clearly they were wrong etc. They might have been sold a lie but that's not there fault and they certainly have nothing to apologise for. The right thing to do is identify the concerns, issues and worries that caused them to vote for Brexit. If you acknowledge that and at least try to address those without judgement and name calling on both sides you might actually get somewhere.  I think or hope this is what Starmer is trying to do.</blockquote>

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