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<blockquote data-quote="Ragey Erasmus" data-source="post: 1097252" data-attributes="member: 56232">The funny thing with the unions is they are pushing for what everyone else says they should be getting, namely long overdue pay rises. What people get angry about is when they actually do something to achieve that aim rather than going cap in hand to their betters and saying &quot;please sir, I want some more.&quot; We will get the scraps left over and we best be damned grateful to get even that!I don&#039;t own a car and so I get the train / bus everywhere. Has this union action mucked up my plans? Definitely. That&#039;s kinda the point though. When the bank of England said pay rises should not match inflation, most people were rightly furious that, after over a decade of incomes being eroded, we are now being told to take essentially a 10% pay cut across the board whilst those at the top aren&#039;t. I think if you were one of those people who was furious at that but now think those who are on strike should accept what you won&#039;t, you&#039;re just a huge hypocrite. I also suspect part of it comes form the fact you don&#039;t have the ability to force those at the top to the negotiating table like they do, it&#039;s take it or leave it. There is a common mentality in the USA and here of resenting those who want to better themselves if you cannot do the same, rather than trying to raise everyone up there is a desire to instead drag everyone else down with you and squabble over the scraps whilst turning a blind eye to those at the top, because they somehow &quot;deserve&quot; their obscene salaries but nobody else does.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ragey Erasmus, post: 1097252, member: 56232"] The funny thing with the unions is they are pushing for what everyone else says they should be getting, namely long overdue pay rises. What people get angry about is when they actually do something to achieve that aim rather than going cap in hand to their betters and saying "please sir, I want some more." We will get the scraps left over and we best be damned grateful to get even that! I don't own a car and so I get the train / bus everywhere. Has this union action mucked up my plans? Definitely. That's kinda the point though. When the bank of England said pay rises should not match inflation, most people were rightly furious that, after over a decade of incomes being eroded, we are now being told to take essentially a 10% pay cut across the board whilst those at the top aren't. I think if you were one of those people who was furious at that but now think those who are on strike should accept what you won't, you're just a huge hypocrite. I also suspect part of it comes form the fact you don't have the ability to force those at the top to the negotiating table like they do, it's take it or leave it. There is a common mentality in the USA and here of resenting those who want to better themselves if you cannot do the same, rather than trying to raise everyone up there is a desire to instead drag everyone else down with you and squabble over the scraps whilst turning a blind eye to those at the top, because they somehow "deserve" their obscene salaries but nobody else does. [/QUOTE]

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