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[2025 Six Nations] Wales vs England - 15/3/25
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<blockquote data-quote="dirty harry" data-source="post: 1219037" data-attributes="member: 86934"><p>No, Italy beat us in every facet because their playing staff are superior. Georgia never lost to us under Gatland, infact he beat them handily with a weakened team at the RWC. So objectively Wales have been better than Georgia under Gatland, subjectively Georgia may be better than us now, I would watch that game whether under Gatland or Sheratt from behind the sofa. </p><p></p><p>Vs Australia we had a very poor playing staff out, as usual, what's the issue with that? We were blown away in 20 mins 3 or 4 tries if I remember correctly, and weren't even good enough to capitalise on the red. </p><p></p><p>What your not taking into account is all the BS that went along with Gats 2nd reign, Players threatening to quit, players retiring randomly, the WRU have been on at least 3 apology tours, brought in perennial failure from the British government Abi from passports, had a number of humiliating in fights, bungled a new top tier league system, introduced 478 new management groups to do something, and watched across the border as fighting broke out about the stupid tackle height law and thought, we can **** up rugby more if we try that out!</p><p></p><p>Now once again, I can defend Gats to a point, especially around the ignorance of his Chiefs job, and his first season as 2nd stint was more than solid, he consolidated a **** show of a squad and provided a much better RWC than anyone thought was possible in Jan of that year, then a lot of things happened behind the scenes, Howley returned, Gats didn't have the talent to work with he did the first time, and he became frustrated and ultimately deserved to go...</p><p></p><p>Let's be honest with ourselves, the Welsh job isn't about being successful, it's about surviving the WRU.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dirty harry, post: 1219037, member: 86934"] No, Italy beat us in every facet because their playing staff are superior. Georgia never lost to us under Gatland, infact he beat them handily with a weakened team at the RWC. So objectively Wales have been better than Georgia under Gatland, subjectively Georgia may be better than us now, I would watch that game whether under Gatland or Sheratt from behind the sofa. Vs Australia we had a very poor playing staff out, as usual, what's the issue with that? We were blown away in 20 mins 3 or 4 tries if I remember correctly, and weren't even good enough to capitalise on the red. What your not taking into account is all the BS that went along with Gats 2nd reign, Players threatening to quit, players retiring randomly, the WRU have been on at least 3 apology tours, brought in perennial failure from the British government Abi from passports, had a number of humiliating in fights, bungled a new top tier league system, introduced 478 new management groups to do something, and watched across the border as fighting broke out about the stupid tackle height law and thought, we can **** up rugby more if we try that out! Now once again, I can defend Gats to a point, especially around the ignorance of his Chiefs job, and his first season as 2nd stint was more than solid, he consolidated a **** show of a squad and provided a much better RWC than anyone thought was possible in Jan of that year, then a lot of things happened behind the scenes, Howley returned, Gats didn't have the talent to work with he did the first time, and he became frustrated and ultimately deserved to go... Let's be honest with ourselves, the Welsh job isn't about being successful, it's about surviving the WRU. [/QUOTE]
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