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Message: <blockquote data-quote="retired9" data-source="post: 1222501" data-attributes="member: 79608">Can't help but be convinced if Owens or Barnes were reffing this they would have seen the replay, told the player this is foul play, red card , done. Even with Owens poor whistle watch excuses for the resulting decisions I reckon he would have sent Mouvaka off.The issue seems to be that the refs are probably getting too tied up in ifs, buts and maybes, the ethos of rugby has always been that the man/woman with the whistle is the law for 80 mins and what they say goes. In this instance, the bunker/TMO could have given their verdict (without the mic being replayed), but referred back to Carney, showed the replay and offered foul play as a question, then the ref on field decides and that's an end of it.</blockquote>