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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Not Eddie Jones" data-source="post: 1023998" data-attributes="member: 81025"><p>Afraid I'm a happy man, I was one of those saying beforehand it'll be better if we lose. It makes changes happen, and changes improve the team, which is what England need, demonstrably. It's like when Wales beat England in the 2015 WC group stage. It contributed to England going out at the group stage and as a result the mediocre Lancaster and his medicore team of 6N bridesmaids was replaced by Eddie Jones, and England won 18 in a row, a Slam, 3 6N ***les in 5 years, the ANC, a whitewash tour in Oz, a first win in SA in almost 20 years, a first win over the ABs in 7 years, got to a WC final for the first time in 12 years etc etc. Mediocre teams losing can have really positive effects on those teams. Mediocre teams winning just leads to mediocre teams losing down the road. See England 2020-21.</p></blockquote><p></p>