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[2020 Six Nations] England Squad
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<blockquote data-quote="BPM" data-source="post: 985300" data-attributes="member: 59968"><p>Agreed. Itoje's tight carrying is average to good. However, his overall athleticism is streets ahead of most other Tier 1 locks which means his average metres made is probably lifted by the occasional bigger breaks he has that most of his competitors would be unlikely to (or would never make).</p><p></p><p>What does the fact that Savea is top tell us given he's probably the lightest and shortest player on that list? You could say he's the exception, but I think it's actually a combination of picking good lines, a low centre of gravity that makes him hard to bring down and a good amount of pace. All of which you could argue Sam Simmonds and/or Ben Earl could bring to the table and brings this whole argument full circle ...</p><p></p><p>FWIW, My overall feeling on Simmonds is that he <em>is</em> definitely good enough for test rugby but not as an 8, which then begs the question of whether he's better than Underhill, Curry, Ludlam or Earl, which I'm not fully convinced he is. I'm mentioning those four specifically as they're in the squad. I'm also not sold on Simmonds being better than Dombrandt or Mercer who are 8s, first and foremost.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BPM, post: 985300, member: 59968"] Agreed. Itoje’s tight carrying is average to good. However, his overall athleticism is streets ahead of most other Tier 1 locks which means his average metres made is probably lifted by the occasional bigger breaks he has that most of his competitors would be unlikely to (or would never make). What does the fact that Savea is top tell us given he’s probably the lightest and shortest player on that list? You could say he’s the exception, but I think it’s actually a combination of picking good lines, a low centre of gravity that makes him hard to bring down and a good amount of pace. All of which you could argue Sam Simmonds and/or Ben Earl could bring to the table and brings this whole argument full circle ... FWIW, My overall feeling on Simmonds is that he [I]is[/I] definitely good enough for test rugby but not as an 8, which then begs the question of whether he’s better than Underhill, Curry, Ludlam or Earl, which I’m not fully convinced he is. I’m mentioning those four specifically as they’re in the squad. I’m also not sold on Simmonds being better than Dombrandt or Mercer who are 8s, first and foremost. [/QUOTE]
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