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<blockquote data-quote="SomeOke" data-source="post: 934822" data-attributes="member: 59145"><p>Two things:</p><p>As a fan of super hero movies I can say categorically that Captain America does not stand for militarist, or imperialist views, quite the opposite. Captain America is about doing the right thing even if it goes against your nation, in his second film he takes down a branch of the US military because they decide they are going to "take out terrorists threats before they happen." his whole ethos goes against imperialism and militarism. Maybe the original comics during the second world war were like that (and everyone was spewing out propaganda in those days) but the character has been completely re-branded you really need to know a little bit about the character before you can comment on his values.</p><p>As for superheroes in general selling ultra-violence I think this is a misrepresentation of the genre, yes they are action movies with action scenes in them (like many action movies before them) but none of the messages in the films are "violence is good" or "solve your problems with violence" quite the opposite, violent characters are frequently portrayed as evil and the "good" guys frequently attempt to find methods other than committing violence to solve their problems, if you have a problem with super hero movies you should have a problem with pretty much any action movie ever made, where the problems are resolved with violence, like sci-fi/fantasy/Westerns/Cop Shows/Historical Dramas/Giant Robot movies you name it.</p><p>Anyway I know this makes me sound like the nerd I am, but those are the facts.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Secondly with regards to the problem with making rugby a "mere show", the bottom line is the entertainment landscape has completely changed in recent years. 10-15 years ago when the rugby was on in South Africa you could literally watch nothing else. It was the event of the weekend, and everyone was excited about it for days. These days with streaming/games/movies/youtube/social media at our finger tips, coming through everyday devices like cell phones that people have in their pockets, kids are literally flooded with entertainment from all sides, it's an instant gratification over-load. If rugby wants to compete with modern forms of media it has to adapt to survive, this means constant updates on stars and club news on social media, an emphasis on fantasy sports, turning players into celebrities with big personalities, and yes big gaudy stunts like kitting your teams out in super hero jerseys.</p><p></p><p>It's no use wishing for rugby to be like it used to be, we have to take the world as it is or rugby will die.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SomeOke, post: 934822, member: 59145"] Two things: As a fan of super hero movies I can say categorically that Captain America does not stand for militarist, or imperialist views, quite the opposite. Captain America is about doing the right thing even if it goes against your nation, in his second film he takes down a branch of the US military because they decide they are going to "take out terrorists threats before they happen." his whole ethos goes against imperialism and militarism. Maybe the original comics during the second world war were like that (and everyone was spewing out propaganda in those days) but the character has been completely re-branded you really need to know a little bit about the character before you can comment on his values. As for superheroes in general selling ultra-violence I think this is a misrepresentation of the genre, yes they are action movies with action scenes in them (like many action movies before them) but none of the messages in the films are "violence is good" or "solve your problems with violence" quite the opposite, violent characters are frequently portrayed as evil and the "good" guys frequently attempt to find methods other than committing violence to solve their problems, if you have a problem with super hero movies you should have a problem with pretty much any action movie ever made, where the problems are resolved with violence, like sci-fi/fantasy/Westerns/Cop Shows/Historical Dramas/Giant Robot movies you name it. Anyway I know this makes me sound like the nerd I am, but those are the facts. Secondly with regards to the problem with making rugby a "mere show", the bottom line is the entertainment landscape has completely changed in recent years. 10-15 years ago when the rugby was on in South Africa you could literally watch nothing else. It was the event of the weekend, and everyone was excited about it for days. These days with streaming/games/movies/youtube/social media at our finger tips, coming through everyday devices like cell phones that people have in their pockets, kids are literally flooded with entertainment from all sides, it's an instant gratification over-load. If rugby wants to compete with modern forms of media it has to adapt to survive, this means constant updates on stars and club news on social media, an emphasis on fantasy sports, turning players into celebrities with big personalities, and yes big gaudy stunts like kitting your teams out in super hero jerseys. It's no use wishing for rugby to be like it used to be, we have to take the world as it is or rugby will die. [/QUOTE]
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