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[2018 Rugby Championship] Round 5: Argentina v New Zealand (30/09/2018)
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<blockquote data-quote="Cruz_del_Sur" data-source="post: 916517" data-attributes="member: 55747"><p>1) The all blacks are the better team. On a very good day we can probably keep up for 60 min or so, but your depth has consistently proved to be too much for us.</p><p></p><p>2) Here is where you and i differ, dramatically. You see something, instinctively believe your thought to be an absoltuel truth and seek confirmation. You go to Instagram/twitter/facebook where other fellow new Zealanders, who also cheer for the same team as you do, comment on everything and seek for others who have a similar view. You comment on each other's posts, give yourselves a "like" and then go back to do something else thinking wonders about yourselves. Probably something along the lines of "yeah, i knew i was right" or "i can really read people". Something like that.</p><p>That is, as someone already pointed out to you, confirmation bias.</p><p>Personally, i find that sad, borderline pathetic. Anyone with a primary school education, minimal curiosity and internet access should know better. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I am pretty much the complete opposite. At least consciously i try to be. I assume i am extremely (unconsciously) biassed, even when that is probably not true, and therefore i doubt of my initial reactions and try to see what people who don't have a particular interest in the outcome of the game think. In my case, i am partial towards south africans as i find them tough but fair in general, but i tend to read euro and australian views too. I do a conscious effort not to watch games with Argentine commentators to prevent me from experiencing that very thing you seem to embrace. That's how different you and i are.</p><p></p><p>After reading/watching all of that, my conclusion is that the ref got a few calls wrong both ways, but nothing that would have swung the game or anything.</p><p></p><p>And regarding the double movement: I think it was and the try shouldn't have been allowed. But again, unlike you, i try to see other people's point of view and he does have a point. It's a point i disagree with, but a point nonetheless. It's not as if he missed something or was trying to give the pumas a win. You'd have to be a world-class retarded **** to think that. So if you eliminate that, assume the ref is not a moron and given he saw the play, both live and on the screen, well, acknowledging he might have a different and valid opinion looks like a reasonable course of action.</p><p></p><p>I guess i have bit more experience than you and have been wrong enough times to learn from those mistakes. That's why i am not as confident in my opinion, why i don't try to impose my view and also and most importantly, why i like to hear what others have to say and understand the logic behind it.</p><p>It's also probably why i dont use "i know you are but what am i" or post gifs about jokes that were mildly fashionable in early 90's jim carrey movies.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cruz_del_Sur, post: 916517, member: 55747"] 1) The all blacks are the better team. On a very good day we can probably keep up for 60 min or so, but your depth has consistently proved to be too much for us. 2) Here is where you and i differ, dramatically. You see something, instinctively believe your thought to be an absoltuel truth and seek confirmation. You go to Instagram/twitter/facebook where other fellow new Zealanders, who also cheer for the same team as you do, comment on everything and seek for others who have a similar view. You comment on each other's posts, give yourselves a "like" and then go back to do something else thinking wonders about yourselves. Probably something along the lines of "yeah, i knew i was right" or "i can really read people". Something like that. That is, as someone already pointed out to you, confirmation bias. Personally, i find that sad, borderline pathetic. Anyone with a primary school education, minimal curiosity and internet access should know better. I am pretty much the complete opposite. At least consciously i try to be. I assume i am extremely (unconsciously) biassed, even when that is probably not true, and therefore i doubt of my initial reactions and try to see what people who don't have a particular interest in the outcome of the game think. In my case, i am partial towards south africans as i find them tough but fair in general, but i tend to read euro and australian views too. I do a conscious effort not to watch games with Argentine commentators to prevent me from experiencing that very thing you seem to embrace. That's how different you and i are. After reading/watching all of that, my conclusion is that the ref got a few calls wrong both ways, but nothing that would have swung the game or anything. And regarding the double movement: I think it was and the try shouldn't have been allowed. But again, unlike you, i try to see other people's point of view and he does have a point. It's a point i disagree with, but a point nonetheless. It's not as if he missed something or was trying to give the pumas a win. You'd have to be a world-class retarded **** to think that. So if you eliminate that, assume the ref is not a moron and given he saw the play, both live and on the screen, well, acknowledging he might have a different and valid opinion looks like a reasonable course of action. I guess i have bit more experience than you and have been wrong enough times to learn from those mistakes. That's why i am not as confident in my opinion, why i don't try to impose my view and also and most importantly, why i like to hear what others have to say and understand the logic behind it. It's also probably why i dont use "i know you are but what am i" or post gifs about jokes that were mildly fashionable in early 90's jim carrey movies. [/QUOTE]
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