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[2017 Rugby Championship] Round 2: New Zealand v Australia (26/08/2017)
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<blockquote data-quote="Red Enigma" data-source="post: 870765" data-attributes="member: 75347"><p>Late joining in the conversation but have read through the forum and have a few of comments to make;</p><p></p><p>(1) Being in QLD I had Aussie commentators on Foxtel to cope with. When Folau ran away for his try the commentators were quick to point out that once he had the ball it was never in doubt. Seems they didn't notice that BB gave him 10 metres start and damn near caught him even though his obvious purpose was to keep Folau away from the posts.</p><p></p><p>(2) Love the way Perenara passes and then supports, has done it all season and must be way up there in the try-assist + tries scored count. A very dangerous halfback and not at all predictable. Has finally got his pass as good as Aaron's and his partnership with BB, already great, will soon become legendary.</p><p></p><p>(3) I started the topic of the place of RU in Aussie, but forgot to mention the strong role played by the elite colleges and universities in providing a base for the sport. As with NZ where the elite colleges and universities focus on RU only, over here they remain a major influence. Traditionally that was far more important, with brains being on a par with brawn. Nowadays, with rugby players being far bigger, stronger, faster than ever, brawn has won out and the opportunities for guys like Conrad Smith to excel are becoming fewer and fewer. I hope this helps explain the problem the ARU have to handle - the mix and match between players of vastly different backgrounds who only get into the melting pot at high levels, whereas the vast bulk of Kiwis mix and match from the day they start playing rugby. In Melbourne I spent Saturdays attending rugby in Frankston, along with Kiwis who made up most playing numbers and most of the crowd. A far cry from watching rugby on the other side of town!</p><p></p><p>(4) Yep, this IS the last comment! Tell me, when one team is hell bent on having a flat back-line and rush defence, why doesn't the opposition set a deep back-line and trust the foot skills of their players? With guys like BB, who have such fast acceleration it is not so important, but most players need to be going at pace when they get the ball and so many AB backs seldom get to use the skills Kiwis excel at - footwork, body language, slick passing. RU is becoming a bit like RL with both teams lining up flat and backs going through the motions. On Saturday, SBW made it almost impossible to pass to him, he was so flat Aaron had to fire the ball like a bullet to prevent a forward pass and that led to a heap of errors. I'm not advocating one attack format over another, but suggest a good option would be to play deep by default and shallow for planned moves.</p><p></p><p>Just fodder for thought.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Red Enigma, post: 870765, member: 75347"] Late joining in the conversation but have read through the forum and have a few of comments to make; (1) Being in QLD I had Aussie commentators on Foxtel to cope with. When Folau ran away for his try the commentators were quick to point out that once he had the ball it was never in doubt. Seems they didn't notice that BB gave him 10 metres start and damn near caught him even though his obvious purpose was to keep Folau away from the posts. (2) Love the way Perenara passes and then supports, has done it all season and must be way up there in the try-assist + tries scored count. A very dangerous halfback and not at all predictable. Has finally got his pass as good as Aaron's and his partnership with BB, already great, will soon become legendary. (3) I started the topic of the place of RU in Aussie, but forgot to mention the strong role played by the elite colleges and universities in providing a base for the sport. As with NZ where the elite colleges and universities focus on RU only, over here they remain a major influence. Traditionally that was far more important, with brains being on a par with brawn. Nowadays, with rugby players being far bigger, stronger, faster than ever, brawn has won out and the opportunities for guys like Conrad Smith to excel are becoming fewer and fewer. I hope this helps explain the problem the ARU have to handle - the mix and match between players of vastly different backgrounds who only get into the melting pot at high levels, whereas the vast bulk of Kiwis mix and match from the day they start playing rugby. In Melbourne I spent Saturdays attending rugby in Frankston, along with Kiwis who made up most playing numbers and most of the crowd. A far cry from watching rugby on the other side of town! (4) Yep, this IS the last comment! Tell me, when one team is hell bent on having a flat back-line and rush defence, why doesn't the opposition set a deep back-line and trust the foot skills of their players? With guys like BB, who have such fast acceleration it is not so important, but most players need to be going at pace when they get the ball and so many AB backs seldom get to use the skills Kiwis excel at - footwork, body language, slick passing. RU is becoming a bit like RL with both teams lining up flat and backs going through the motions. On Saturday, SBW made it almost impossible to pass to him, he was so flat Aaron had to fire the ball like a bullet to prevent a forward pass and that led to a heap of errors. I'm not advocating one attack format over another, but suggest a good option would be to play deep by default and shallow for planned moves. Just fodder for thought. [/QUOTE]
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