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[2016 Super Rugby] Hurricanes vs. Lions (The Final) 06/08/2016
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<blockquote data-quote="TRF_stormer2010" data-source="post: 810335" data-attributes="member: 39190"><p>TBH I don't get why people are bagging on Barrett. I thought he was exceptional given the circumstances and he has shown that consistently the end of this season and play-offs. We all know he can break a game wide open. Doesn't it show him to be even a better player having showed he can boss a game without break-away tries every 10 minutes etc or what exactly? He did score a try in each of these knock-out games, he did put Jane away for the (non)try (it wasn't Barrett that slightly fumbled that ball in the lead up). What more do people want?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think that's a lazy generalization to make. Did April have a howler in his first QF of SR in his debut year f professional rugby? Yes. Yes he did but so too did Rob du Preez. Sure, Du Preez had the added pressure of just returning from injury as well but this is the first year these guys have played SR. April essentially went directly from club rugby to SR. Its a big ask. On JPP I think he wasn't the poorest from the Sharks. I thought Le Roux was much worse and put his wings under undue pressure. Its unfair to say JPP doesn't have BMT, he has shown he has in much bigger games. I'd put the fact he didn't shine down more to his being off form in general than 'disappearing'.</p><p></p><p>Jantjies buckled under pressure. He's done it before and he'll do it again. Better players have had the same happen to them. There is a general consensus in SA that Jantjies looks better going forward than most in SA but looks worse than all f our 10s when under pressure. At the Stormers when we had him on loan the year the Lions were out of SR he went from hero to villia in the space of a game. At the Lions in 2012 he looked like he could do it all. Move him to Newlands where our 10s are more exposed and he couldn't tie his shoe-laces. But thats the player, not his race IMO. </p><p></p><p>Was Skosan dreadful? I saw him managing to stop (at least long enough for help to arrive) Savea at full tilt. I don't think there'd be many wingers of his build that'd have the heart to even try. He simply wasn't afforded the opportunities he has been up till now. Its unfair to put it down to race. Same with Mapoe and same with Janse van Rensburg who also dropped balls he would've taken the previous week.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I have to agree. He could've sent such players like Janse van Rensburg, Andries Coetzee and Ruan Ackermann, players who had only had 1/2 a season behind the belt whether for selection or injury reasons. Surely those players can be reasonably be expected to come out at least on a par with the rest? A guy like Coetzee might even have done well with getting game time since he was out injured so long. </p><p></p><p>I too question his tactics but it happens and I can understand and respect the fact they tried to do what has worked for them up till then and TBF they did slightly change their approached when it was clear their approach wasn't working. It went better but not better enough, they had an uphill battle to start with (travel, alien weather and the expected calls that favored the home team in those fine margins) and a misstart didn't help. </p><p></p><p>Which brings me back to the Jaguares game and the fact that they could've been the team with the home advantage, posiibly even more skewing than what Wellington was. A gamble took and just about all called it a poor one even before it didn't pay.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TRF_stormer2010, post: 810335, member: 39190"] TBH I don't get why people are bagging on Barrett. I thought he was exceptional given the circumstances and he has shown that consistently the end of this season and play-offs. We all know he can break a game wide open. Doesn't it show him to be even a better player having showed he can boss a game without break-away tries every 10 minutes etc or what exactly? He did score a try in each of these knock-out games, he did put Jane away for the (non)try (it wasn't Barrett that slightly fumbled that ball in the lead up). What more do people want? I think that's a lazy generalization to make. Did April have a howler in his first QF of SR in his debut year f professional rugby? Yes. Yes he did but so too did Rob du Preez. Sure, Du Preez had the added pressure of just returning from injury as well but this is the first year these guys have played SR. April essentially went directly from club rugby to SR. Its a big ask. On JPP I think he wasn't the poorest from the Sharks. I thought Le Roux was much worse and put his wings under undue pressure. Its unfair to say JPP doesn't have BMT, he has shown he has in much bigger games. I'd put the fact he didn't shine down more to his being off form in general than 'disappearing'. Jantjies buckled under pressure. He's done it before and he'll do it again. Better players have had the same happen to them. There is a general consensus in SA that Jantjies looks better going forward than most in SA but looks worse than all f our 10s when under pressure. At the Stormers when we had him on loan the year the Lions were out of SR he went from hero to villia in the space of a game. At the Lions in 2012 he looked like he could do it all. Move him to Newlands where our 10s are more exposed and he couldn't tie his shoe-laces. But thats the player, not his race IMO. Was Skosan dreadful? I saw him managing to stop (at least long enough for help to arrive) Savea at full tilt. I don't think there'd be many wingers of his build that'd have the heart to even try. He simply wasn't afforded the opportunities he has been up till now. Its unfair to put it down to race. Same with Mapoe and same with Janse van Rensburg who also dropped balls he would've taken the previous week. [COLOR=silver][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] I have to agree. He could've sent such players like Janse van Rensburg, Andries Coetzee and Ruan Ackermann, players who had only had 1/2 a season behind the belt whether for selection or injury reasons. Surely those players can be reasonably be expected to come out at least on a par with the rest? A guy like Coetzee might even have done well with getting game time since he was out injured so long. I too question his tactics but it happens and I can understand and respect the fact they tried to do what has worked for them up till then and TBF they did slightly change their approached when it was clear their approach wasn't working. It went better but not better enough, they had an uphill battle to start with (travel, alien weather and the expected calls that favored the home team in those fine margins) and a misstart didn't help. Which brings me back to the Jaguares game and the fact that they could've been the team with the home advantage, posiibly even more skewing than what Wellington was. A gamble took and just about all called it a poor one even before it didn't pay. [/QUOTE]
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