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[2016 Rugby Championship] New Zealand v Argentina (10/09/2016)
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<blockquote data-quote="Cruz_del_Sur" data-source="post: 816414" data-attributes="member: 55747"><p>I'd love to but i don't see it. We can hardly manage one franchise. We do not have neither the players nor the resources to do so at this point, and we won't anytime time soon. Even if every European player came back and played for an Arg franchise, splitting the team would cost us dearly in terms of performance. </p><p>I am confident enough about our (jaguares) performance coming season. I'd have no confidence at all of making it to the play offs if we had to split our players into two franchises. </p><p>I'd rather have one strong one, make a statement and take it from there. </p><p></p><p>And about the game, i've been thinking about it and what is starting to worry me is our effectiveness. </p><p>Last two games are perfect examples. Our game against RSA, i think few here would argue we played better and deserved the win, but it doesn't take a conspiracy theorist to acknowledge that, had any of your kickers had an average day, as opposed to a bad one, the result could have very well been different. Elton and Steyn had and appalling day. I am not saying anything new, and I am trying to be as impartial and factual as possible and the facts are we won by 2 points and RSA missed more kicks than they generally do. We deserved to win, but that is a judgement call, not a fact. </p><p>Again, we played better, we deserved the win, but we got it by an inch. </p><p></p><p>And against the ABs game, again, i think few here would argue that our performance against the ABs was considerably better than say, Australia's in the first game. People (players, coaches, pundits, the lot) were all talking about how Argentina was able to put pressure and exploited the (few) vulnerabilities the ABs had. Go back and check what the newspapers from RSA, Arg, NZ, AUS or UK said about Australia's performance against NZ in the opening game. Not a single redeemable aspect. Not one. </p><p>Despite ALL of this, Argentina lost by more points and Australia. Again, facts. </p><p>For some reason, a very entertaining and decent performance from us renders a smaller point difference than an appalling display from Australia. I could understand that if Australia were the team of the century and we were a mess, but that ain't the case. When i see what the media is saying i can't help wandering, are we being pity****ed? I never would have thought so, but again, Aus loses by 34 points and they are a disaster, we lose by 35 and some people praise us... </p><p></p><p>What i am trying to say is that, despite the attractive rugby that we bring to the table (which i love and i think that is why we do get credit inside and outside our borders) we are having a lot of problems when we need to transform that into points in the board. This needs to be addressed, asap.</p><p>I'd be inclined to let this slide if i thought it was a one-off thing, but i am starting to see a pattern here, and i don't like it one bit. </p><p></p><p>The video below defines the Pumas to the t... fantastic 2 minute display of offensive skills against the best defense there is only to have an unchallenged player drop the ball 4 meters away from the try line. </p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/momentssporting/videos/1735532036697437/" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/momentssporting/videos/1735532036697437/</a></p><p></p><p>I am really curious about next weekend's game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cruz_del_Sur, post: 816414, member: 55747"] I'd love to but i don't see it. We can hardly manage one franchise. We do not have neither the players nor the resources to do so at this point, and we won't anytime time soon. Even if every European player came back and played for an Arg franchise, splitting the team would cost us dearly in terms of performance. I am confident enough about our (jaguares) performance coming season. I'd have no confidence at all of making it to the play offs if we had to split our players into two franchises. I'd rather have one strong one, make a statement and take it from there. And about the game, i've been thinking about it and what is starting to worry me is our effectiveness. Last two games are perfect examples. Our game against RSA, i think few here would argue we played better and deserved the win, but it doesn't take a conspiracy theorist to acknowledge that, had any of your kickers had an average day, as opposed to a bad one, the result could have very well been different. Elton and Steyn had and appalling day. I am not saying anything new, and I am trying to be as impartial and factual as possible and the facts are we won by 2 points and RSA missed more kicks than they generally do. We deserved to win, but that is a judgement call, not a fact. Again, we played better, we deserved the win, but we got it by an inch. And against the ABs game, again, i think few here would argue that our performance against the ABs was considerably better than say, Australia's in the first game. People (players, coaches, pundits, the lot) were all talking about how Argentina was able to put pressure and exploited the (few) vulnerabilities the ABs had. Go back and check what the newspapers from RSA, Arg, NZ, AUS or UK said about Australia's performance against NZ in the opening game. Not a single redeemable aspect. Not one. Despite ALL of this, Argentina lost by more points and Australia. Again, facts. For some reason, a very entertaining and decent performance from us renders a smaller point difference than an appalling display from Australia. I could understand that if Australia were the team of the century and we were a mess, but that ain't the case. When i see what the media is saying i can't help wandering, are we being pity****ed? I never would have thought so, but again, Aus loses by 34 points and they are a disaster, we lose by 35 and some people praise us... What i am trying to say is that, despite the attractive rugby that we bring to the table (which i love and i think that is why we do get credit inside and outside our borders) we are having a lot of problems when we need to transform that into points in the board. This needs to be addressed, asap. I'd be inclined to let this slide if i thought it was a one-off thing, but i am starting to see a pattern here, and i don't like it one bit. The video below defines the Pumas to the t... fantastic 2 minute display of offensive skills against the best defense there is only to have an unchallenged player drop the ball 4 meters away from the try line. [url]https://www.facebook.com/momentssporting/videos/1735532036697437/[/url] I am really curious about next weekend's game. [/QUOTE]
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