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Message: <blockquote data-quote="j&#039;nuh" data-source="post: 812396" data-attributes="member: 55446">Sure.On my first point: I think it would be somewhat obtuse to believe that only physically forcing someone into doing something is the removal of agency. Semenya cannot compete with men; her personal best in 800m is 1:55, 10 seconds behind the worst result in the 800m final in London 2012. To disqualify her from competing with women is to effectively bar her from professional sports. For Semenya, the choice is effectively: take hormone suppressors, or stop being a professional athlete. When you present someone with a "do this or else", it's a threat in the guise of a choice.On my latter point: "echoes" is the key word.</blockquote>