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2014 Six Nations: France vs England (Round 1)
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<blockquote data-quote="Big Ewis" data-source="post: 621300" data-attributes="member: 57076"><p>I never talked about the scrum...I'm obviously talking about the breakdown, rucks the whole time...</p><p></p><p>And about French fitness, it's not a myth. The English have a much more thorough culture for working out. Just look at what they look like for proof. Like I said earlier, players, pro or not, make mention of that often. We're not as intense with our gym sessions, bottom line. We do have the endurance to keep up and even surpass them, but that's another thing. They still work out like crazy over the Chanel, in comparison to us. We were ridiculously behind before the pro era, and we still are now though the gap is a little narrower. </p><p>I couldn't give you stats, hard evidence like number of hours at the gym, specific workouts or anything, but hearing/reading all those stories, looking at the bodies, knowing the English and the French in general, watching England workouts on YouTube and then French workouts (on DailyMotion), there's a clear difference.</p><p></p><p>And about stamina, we did have disasters because of fitness: December 2010 EOYT, Australia. We're right with them at 16-16 around half-time and then all Hell breaks loose. We remain at 16 and they end up going up to.....59. You look at the French players, they're spent, they can't keep up with the Wallabies. Overtaken, completely. And you don't play a competitive 50min with a tied score and then get ANNIHILATED - <u>at home</u>, when your fitness is similar to that of the tourists. </p><p>The Top 14 calendar can be blamed most certainly here, but only partially.</p><p></p><p>We just have this culture in France of "ok, training's important now, let's work out....alright, that's enough." </p><p>The "anglo-saxon" cultures, they never stop working. Just some weeks ago, Bastareaud explained it, admiring Wilkinson's work ethic, and saying how guys like Giteau and Wilko just had this culture we don't have in France of working extra hours. First at the gym, last to leave, exceeding the required amount, working overtime...that's English/Australian/NZ and probably SA'can. Def. not French.</p><p>After all, there's a saying (in general, not just Rugby): "the French work to live, the English live to work", dunno if it translates well in English but "les Français travaillent pour vivre, les Anglais vivent pour travailler".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Big Ewis, post: 621300, member: 57076"] I never talked about the scrum...I'm obviously talking about the breakdown, rucks the whole time... And about French fitness, it's not a myth. The English have a much more thorough culture for working out. Just look at what they look like for proof. Like I said earlier, players, pro or not, make mention of that often. We're not as intense with our gym sessions, bottom line. We do have the endurance to keep up and even surpass them, but that's another thing. They still work out like crazy over the Chanel, in comparison to us. We were ridiculously behind before the pro era, and we still are now though the gap is a little narrower. I couldn't give you stats, hard evidence like number of hours at the gym, specific workouts or anything, but hearing/reading all those stories, looking at the bodies, knowing the English and the French in general, watching England workouts on YouTube and then French workouts (on DailyMotion), there's a clear difference. And about stamina, we did have disasters because of fitness: December 2010 EOYT, Australia. We're right with them at 16-16 around half-time and then all Hell breaks loose. We remain at 16 and they end up going up to.....59. You look at the French players, they're spent, they can't keep up with the Wallabies. Overtaken, completely. And you don't play a competitive 50min with a tied score and then get ANNIHILATED - [U]at home[/U], when your fitness is similar to that of the tourists. The Top 14 calendar can be blamed most certainly here, but only partially. We just have this culture in France of "ok, training's important now, let's work out....alright, that's enough." The "anglo-saxon" cultures, they never stop working. Just some weeks ago, Bastareaud explained it, admiring Wilkinson's work ethic, and saying how guys like Giteau and Wilko just had this culture we don't have in France of working extra hours. First at the gym, last to leave, exceeding the required amount, working overtime...that's English/Australian/NZ and probably SA'can. Def. not French. After all, there's a saying (in general, not just Rugby): "the French work to live, the English live to work", dunno if it translates well in English but "les Français travaillent pour vivre, les Anglais vivent pour travailler". [/QUOTE]
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