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[2014 EOYT] Wales vs New Zealand
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<blockquote data-quote="DuncTheDoodle" data-source="post: 692730" data-attributes="member: 38950"><p>There is no one factor, more a law of average when nobody is a lineout specialist.</p><p></p><p>Alun Wyn is a solid lineout jumper, but we need someone who takes more on themself- It's not a coincidence that our periods of good results came alongside top lineout forwards such as Charteris and Yanto being in grand form. We rely on non-specialist jumpers such as Warburton, Faletau and Lydiate too much. However, it's not worth switching one of these players for a stronger lineout back row forward, such as Shingler or King. The hooker does make a big difference, though- With Ken playing, I feel our lineout is passable. He's a good thrower, which takes one potential problem out of the equation. There were two yesterday which were almost certainly down to overthrows, rather than anything else, although that is by no means the only source of the problem. Regardless, these are issues that should be worked on by both club and international coaches. It's a primary source of ball, and we can't use it at the moment.</p><p></p><p>I'm not sold on Bernardo. The Ospreys lineout, with him taking the majority of the ball on himself, on Friday night was even worse than Wales' on Saturday. He strikes me as solid enough, but not the ball-farting lineout magician Yanto, the man he is replacing, was on his day.</p><p></p><p>And on the point of patronising Wales, I'm nowhere near going 'Good effort', though I have mellowed a lot over the last 30 hours. Then I was furious at the players and felt they'd destroyed the right to take any pride or credit in their work over the first 70 minutes. Now I'm merely disappointed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DuncTheDoodle, post: 692730, member: 38950"] There is no one factor, more a law of average when nobody is a lineout specialist. Alun Wyn is a solid lineout jumper, but we need someone who takes more on themself- It's not a coincidence that our periods of good results came alongside top lineout forwards such as Charteris and Yanto being in grand form. We rely on non-specialist jumpers such as Warburton, Faletau and Lydiate too much. However, it's not worth switching one of these players for a stronger lineout back row forward, such as Shingler or King. The hooker does make a big difference, though- With Ken playing, I feel our lineout is passable. He's a good thrower, which takes one potential problem out of the equation. There were two yesterday which were almost certainly down to overthrows, rather than anything else, although that is by no means the only source of the problem. Regardless, these are issues that should be worked on by both club and international coaches. It's a primary source of ball, and we can't use it at the moment. I'm not sold on Bernardo. The Ospreys lineout, with him taking the majority of the ball on himself, on Friday night was even worse than Wales' on Saturday. He strikes me as solid enough, but not the ball-farting lineout magician Yanto, the man he is replacing, was on his day. And on the point of patronising Wales, I'm nowhere near going 'Good effort', though I have mellowed a lot over the last 30 hours. Then I was furious at the players and felt they'd destroyed the right to take any pride or credit in their work over the first 70 minutes. Now I'm merely disappointed. [/QUOTE]
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