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2014 6 Nations: England vs Wales (Round 4)
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<blockquote data-quote="Mrs. Peter Quinn" data-source="post: 628865" data-attributes="member: 12190"><p>Watched the match back yesterday and these are my player ratings:</p><p></p><p><strong>1: Joe Marler</strong> - Was part of a really industrious front row effort in the tackle area and at the breakdown who between them made 30 tackles and combined they missed fewer than our backrow! Marlers linespeed is always top notch and he is very important in chopping down offensive players early. He had a steady enough day at the scrum barring a couple of big pressure moments, which is not a bad return against Adam Jones. <strong>7</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>2. Dylan Hartley</strong> - Excellent throwing for the most part, barring one lapse. He's popping up less often in the scrum than he often does. He gave away 4 penalties though for different things which would have cost us a game in other circumstances. A couple were instances where he would have barely had the time to make a decision, but still that reflex decision making is something players need. A pretty strong work-rate and 13 tackles made save his score from being lower.<strong>5.5</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>3. David Wilson </strong>- Good game from the big man - I was worried after the first scrum but he seemed to settle. Whether or not he was as much at fault as Gethin Jenkins I don't know - but Poite clearly seemed to think Wilson was ok and it's surely a huge victory to have the prop opposite you carded. He got stuck in at ruck time and had one fantastic waddle towards the line. I'd love for him to keep his place when Cole returns. <strong>7.5</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>4. Joe Launchbury</strong> : Hitting rucks and chasing down wingers, he was everywhere really. His carrying is much improved - I remember him smashing through an attempted double tackle from Alun Wyn-Jones and Adam Jones. He's carrying in a way which I think often typifies tighthead locks - not necessarily making loads of metres but drawing in multiple tacklers and being tiring to tackle. His speed and strength combined just make him such a handful - I remember him scragging Philips after a 5 metre scrum and almost dragging him over Wales' try line. Lower tackle count than any other forward but that's ok considering the tackle counts of the back-row + Lawes Top top player. <strong>8</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>5. Courtney Lawes:</strong> His best performance in an England shirt by some way. He had it all! Carrying, shuddering tackles (such as that on Roberts) He made a charge down and regathered and I think that led to points. Lovely flick out the back to Burrell for the 'Not-a-try' - stole the odd lineout and mastered ours. I think the penalty against him was harsh as I think Webb released him quite early and then re-grabbed his ankle, which made it look like Lawes was held. Imo it's no coincidence that he's in his best form with the continuous run of games he's had - he's injury prone which often disrupts his momentum. But hell does he have some now! <strong>9/9.5</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>6. Tom Wood:</strong> Made the most tackles and only missed 1. Quite often however he was the second tackler in so was putting in a hit with Robshaw already round the guys legs. Kept a lid on Webb even when the latter seemed to be finding some space. Wood and Marler practise the chop tackle somewhat clumsily but ultimately effectively and Wood caused lots of disruption at the breakdown, such as putting in the boot where possible. <strong>7</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>7. Chris Robshaw:</strong> Quieter than he sometimes is; he dropped off a couple of tackles, and his carrying was less evident. However he led our linespeed really well and the workrate was still there. Was visibly irrate with himself when he and Hartley gave away a penalty and I thought that showed his discipline and high standards. <strong>7</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>8. Ben Morgan:</strong> One of his best games in an England shirt. Not just carrying well but a good passing game went with it. He knew when to pass and when to take it up himself. Dragged Liam Williams into touch when Wales were on the break, won a few turnovers and lasted the duration <strong>8</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>9. Danny Care: </strong>Top decision making. Varied his passing game and his kicking game was vastly improved. Knew when he had to tackle and when to leave it for his forwards. Was solely responsible for the first try with two successive quick penalties. <strong>8</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>10. Owen Farrell: </strong> Definitely one of his best games in an England shirt. Kicking from hand and tee was on the money. This said, he managed to infuriate me with his attempted cross-kick to Nowell. Surely if you're going for such a manoeuvre you've got to at least allow the winger to run onto it - not just kick it so that he has to stand still and wait for the ball to arrive. Farrell still looks awkward taking the ball to the line, and his laborious attempts to straighten and pass mean he WILL be intercepted one of these days. Almost happened with North on sunday. Nuisance around rucks and likes to put the boot in. Great to have him in a match 23 even if he's not a truly flair player. <strong>7.5</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>11. Johnny May: </strong>He will always make metres but so far he has been guilty of some questionable decision making, e.g on sunday he decided not to pass to Nowell outside him which resulted in a turn over. Not backing himself pace wise, and sometimes looks unsure what he's trying to do. Mistakes have crept in for example the missed try against Ireland. He beats defenders but I'd rather he went forward a tad earlier. Dropped one high ball which he could have caught. Still, he can be dangerous and will always beat defenders. The worry for him should be that with returning injured players, he may not find himself in the picture all too soon <strong>6</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>12. Billy Twelvetrees:</strong> Top game. Much improved distribution. It was he who put Wilson in for his 'gallop' towards the line. Dealt with the physicality of Roberts and North really well, leading Englands defense. Perfect kick for Burrells try. Still think that he maybe tries to force it when taking the ball forwards himself, resulting in him coming across rather muddled when on the ball. Better decision making though and largely knew when to run and when to kick. </p><p></p><p><strong>13. Luther Burrell:</strong> I really did not expect him to look comfortable at 13 but I feel he's more a threat there than he ever has at 12. I think that, bearing in mind the options England have now at 12, and the incoming Burgess, he should take very seriously the idea of a positional switch. We simply have fewer options at 13. Big defensive hits on the welsh backs, in the right place at the right time, great finish for his try. Gave away one penalty for coming in at the side after Wales had counter-rucked through, definitely understandable mistake to make considering the chaos. <strong>8</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>14. Jack Nowell:</strong> Like May, has made mistakes, but it doesn't seem to put him off. Has got real acceleration with which he always seems to make metres. Am a fan of him, but he'll be under pressure, like May, when the likes of Wade and Yarde return. One missed tackle on George North which might have been costly, but otherwise has been a rock in defense all tournament. I think Lancaster will always have time for a wing built along the lines of Nowell, and imo he has a better chance of keeping his place than May. <strong>7</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>15. Mike Brown:</strong> Continues to impress. Not just his carrying but his Gary owens and under the high ball. Seems to give the other players confidence to have him around. Best full-back in europe right now <strong>8</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>Subs:</p><p></p><p><strong>Mako Vunipola: </strong>Some nice darts with ball in hand but I struggle to see him staying in the picture if he cannot improve his scrummaging. Was bent over backwards in two scrums by Adam Jones and co. </p><p></p><p><strong>Tom Youngs:</strong> Better lineout, got busy and kept the status quo.</p><p></p><p><strong>Henry Thomas:</strong> Had one good scrum I recall. Also make a huge tackle in the Welsh 22.</p><p></p><p><strong>David Attwood:</strong> Some more shuddering tackles. He's become a key key part of our 80 minute game. Really maturing as a player and is of a type England need.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Quick Note on Wales:</p><p></p><p><strong>Toby Faletau:</strong> Watching back, he just made a couple of wrong decisions. Tried to offload when it wasn't on, and I remember him breaking away a touch too early from a Welsh driving maul. Was kept quiet at the breakdown.</p><p></p><p><strong>Alex Cuthbert:</strong> Was dumped on his arse attempting to tackle Owen Farrell in the second half - really not on when you consider his size. Defensively Wales need better.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mrs. Peter Quinn, post: 628865, member: 12190"] Watched the match back yesterday and these are my player ratings: [B]1: Joe Marler[/B] - Was part of a really industrious front row effort in the tackle area and at the breakdown who between them made 30 tackles and combined they missed fewer than our backrow! Marlers linespeed is always top notch and he is very important in chopping down offensive players early. He had a steady enough day at the scrum barring a couple of big pressure moments, which is not a bad return against Adam Jones. [B]7[/B] [B]2. Dylan Hartley[/B] - Excellent throwing for the most part, barring one lapse. He's popping up less often in the scrum than he often does. He gave away 4 penalties though for different things which would have cost us a game in other circumstances. A couple were instances where he would have barely had the time to make a decision, but still that reflex decision making is something players need. A pretty strong work-rate and 13 tackles made save his score from being lower.[B]5.5[/B] [B]3. David Wilson [/B]- Good game from the big man - I was worried after the first scrum but he seemed to settle. Whether or not he was as much at fault as Gethin Jenkins I don't know - but Poite clearly seemed to think Wilson was ok and it's surely a huge victory to have the prop opposite you carded. He got stuck in at ruck time and had one fantastic waddle towards the line. I'd love for him to keep his place when Cole returns. [B]7.5[/B] [B]4. Joe Launchbury[/B] : Hitting rucks and chasing down wingers, he was everywhere really. His carrying is much improved - I remember him smashing through an attempted double tackle from Alun Wyn-Jones and Adam Jones. He's carrying in a way which I think often typifies tighthead locks - not necessarily making loads of metres but drawing in multiple tacklers and being tiring to tackle. His speed and strength combined just make him such a handful - I remember him scragging Philips after a 5 metre scrum and almost dragging him over Wales' try line. Lower tackle count than any other forward but that's ok considering the tackle counts of the back-row + Lawes Top top player. [B]8[/B] [B]5. Courtney Lawes:[/B] His best performance in an England shirt by some way. He had it all! Carrying, shuddering tackles (such as that on Roberts) He made a charge down and regathered and I think that led to points. Lovely flick out the back to Burrell for the 'Not-a-try' - stole the odd lineout and mastered ours. I think the penalty against him was harsh as I think Webb released him quite early and then re-grabbed his ankle, which made it look like Lawes was held. Imo it's no coincidence that he's in his best form with the continuous run of games he's had - he's injury prone which often disrupts his momentum. But hell does he have some now! [B]9/9.5[/B] [B]6. Tom Wood:[/B] Made the most tackles and only missed 1. Quite often however he was the second tackler in so was putting in a hit with Robshaw already round the guys legs. Kept a lid on Webb even when the latter seemed to be finding some space. Wood and Marler practise the chop tackle somewhat clumsily but ultimately effectively and Wood caused lots of disruption at the breakdown, such as putting in the boot where possible. [B]7[/B] [B]7. Chris Robshaw:[/B] Quieter than he sometimes is; he dropped off a couple of tackles, and his carrying was less evident. However he led our linespeed really well and the workrate was still there. Was visibly irrate with himself when he and Hartley gave away a penalty and I thought that showed his discipline and high standards. [B]7[/B] [B]8. Ben Morgan:[/B] One of his best games in an England shirt. Not just carrying well but a good passing game went with it. He knew when to pass and when to take it up himself. Dragged Liam Williams into touch when Wales were on the break, won a few turnovers and lasted the duration [B]8[/B] [B]9. Danny Care: [/B]Top decision making. Varied his passing game and his kicking game was vastly improved. Knew when he had to tackle and when to leave it for his forwards. Was solely responsible for the first try with two successive quick penalties. [B]8[/B] [B]10. Owen Farrell: [/B] Definitely one of his best games in an England shirt. Kicking from hand and tee was on the money. This said, he managed to infuriate me with his attempted cross-kick to Nowell. Surely if you're going for such a manoeuvre you've got to at least allow the winger to run onto it - not just kick it so that he has to stand still and wait for the ball to arrive. Farrell still looks awkward taking the ball to the line, and his laborious attempts to straighten and pass mean he WILL be intercepted one of these days. Almost happened with North on sunday. Nuisance around rucks and likes to put the boot in. Great to have him in a match 23 even if he's not a truly flair player. [B]7.5[/B] [B]11. Johnny May: [/B]He will always make metres but so far he has been guilty of some questionable decision making, e.g on sunday he decided not to pass to Nowell outside him which resulted in a turn over. Not backing himself pace wise, and sometimes looks unsure what he's trying to do. Mistakes have crept in for example the missed try against Ireland. He beats defenders but I'd rather he went forward a tad earlier. Dropped one high ball which he could have caught. Still, he can be dangerous and will always beat defenders. The worry for him should be that with returning injured players, he may not find himself in the picture all too soon [B]6[/B] [B]12. Billy Twelvetrees:[/B] Top game. Much improved distribution. It was he who put Wilson in for his 'gallop' towards the line. Dealt with the physicality of Roberts and North really well, leading Englands defense. Perfect kick for Burrells try. Still think that he maybe tries to force it when taking the ball forwards himself, resulting in him coming across rather muddled when on the ball. Better decision making though and largely knew when to run and when to kick. [B][/B] [B]13. Luther Burrell:[/B] I really did not expect him to look comfortable at 13 but I feel he's more a threat there than he ever has at 12. I think that, bearing in mind the options England have now at 12, and the incoming Burgess, he should take very seriously the idea of a positional switch. We simply have fewer options at 13. Big defensive hits on the welsh backs, in the right place at the right time, great finish for his try. Gave away one penalty for coming in at the side after Wales had counter-rucked through, definitely understandable mistake to make considering the chaos. [B]8[/B] [B]14. Jack Nowell:[/B] Like May, has made mistakes, but it doesn't seem to put him off. Has got real acceleration with which he always seems to make metres. Am a fan of him, but he'll be under pressure, like May, when the likes of Wade and Yarde return. One missed tackle on George North which might have been costly, but otherwise has been a rock in defense all tournament. I think Lancaster will always have time for a wing built along the lines of Nowell, and imo he has a better chance of keeping his place than May. [B]7[/B] [B]15. Mike Brown:[/B] Continues to impress. Not just his carrying but his Gary owens and under the high ball. Seems to give the other players confidence to have him around. Best full-back in europe right now [B]8[/B] Subs: [B]Mako Vunipola: [/B]Some nice darts with ball in hand but I struggle to see him staying in the picture if he cannot improve his scrummaging. Was bent over backwards in two scrums by Adam Jones and co. [B]Tom Youngs:[/B] Better lineout, got busy and kept the status quo. [B]Henry Thomas:[/B] Had one good scrum I recall. Also make a huge tackle in the Welsh 22. [B]David Attwood:[/B] Some more shuddering tackles. He's become a key key part of our 80 minute game. Really maturing as a player and is of a type England need. Quick Note on Wales: [B]Toby Faletau:[/B] Watching back, he just made a couple of wrong decisions. Tried to offload when it wasn't on, and I remember him breaking away a touch too early from a Welsh driving maul. Was kept quiet at the breakdown. [B]Alex Cuthbert:[/B] Was dumped on his arse attempting to tackle Owen Farrell in the second half - really not on when you consider his size. Defensively Wales need better. [/QUOTE]
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